What in F is goin' on with ENERGY mules?!?!

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by clubber, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. clubber

    clubber Member

    I mean, if you invest 4000 in energy and reach in 100 days lvl 1500 (or so) you think you're a real player? C'mon! What are you thinking of? You can get killed by a lvl 200-250 easily... I really don't understand. PLEASE POST HERE THE REASON YOU DID, TO HAVE SO MANY ENERGY AND 2 HAVE SUCH A WHOOPED ASS from a low lvl players. :mad:
  2. They do it mainly because they are alts. Used to HL the enemies of the main account.
    I got put on the HL at a cost of around 300BN yes, 300BN by the one that begins with an E and ends with NRON for no reason at all, never ever had any interaction with it. Probably had interaction with the main account though!
  3. Ace

    Ace Member

    This. Some people lack balls to list with their main accounts so they do it with alts. There might be exceptions, but I'm certain most of them are alts.
  4. Kendall

    Kendall Administrator

    For those that have built up characters in that manner they have effectively ruined their character.
  5. Jessica

    Jessica Member

    I have an energy account on hi5 and don't list anyone even though I'm rich. I also play on facebook but there I'm a big boss killer and only have 1k energy for the achievement. So your complaining that people have different ways to play than you? Who really cares its their account not yours and the way you post it just makes you sound jealous because your not leveling as fast as people who build their stats towards leveling.
  6. not really, they maybe only die once per level and they will soon be filling the rankings for by level.
    And they are mainly used for HLing people so really, its not a waste

  7. my point (and others) is that some of these are legit and they can build their character any way they want. some are alts. just being used to raise $$$ to HL.
  8. Das liebe Beil

    Das liebe Beil Well-Known Member

    I have 4000+ Energy, some stam, some health and I now pump my defense up to 10k.

    I like energy-leveling, as I absolutely adore sitting on piles of money. Meow. And it's quicker than leveling with bosses or battles. You don't need to worry about your loadout, lost xp are easily recovered by doing even more outbreaks.

    I am even tempted to start a very high energy account on fb and level to Level 1000 within days.
  9. Kendall

    Kendall Administrator

    The energy refill on level is unbalanced with stamina, we have had on our todo list to make a correction to the amount awarded on level up. In reality max refill for energy should not go beyond the max achievement. With the latest locations, this has become even more apparent.
  10. Jessica

    Jessica Member

    Wait a minute your actually considering changing energy refill on level up from 10k to 1k just like that? Do you know how many people with over 1k energy would be ticked off by that change? Everything over 1k would become useless..
  11. Kendall

    Kendall Administrator

    Not to 1k. 10k was set with locations up to level 300. Now that we have doubled it and released locations with more skill points, it has created an incentive for some players to go all energy and have "other people" kill their bosses, which in turn incentivizes players to build alts which creates more work for us to freeze accounts.

    Energy is really a 4-1 or 5-1 exchange as compared to stamina, we will be dropping to 5k shortly. We will be running some more calculations on current locations and it may drop to 4k. You still get all the benefits from energy boosts and daily rewards.
  12. Das liebe Beil

    Das liebe Beil Well-Known Member

    Yep, that will have high waves. There are players out there who have even higher energy than me, and players who invested up to 2k Skill points into energy. Having Energy suddenly limited like that is a change that will annoy players. So please reconsider that. After all, you implemented many features that help high-energy players and suddenly taking it all away seems a bit unfair.

    Sure, high-energy players level more quickly and far more efficient than low-energy players, but they're also open to every attacker.

    With such a change you'd be severely limiting gameplay options and enforce a high-stam, high health, high attack build that can easily blast bosses.

    Heavy fighting players should be happy that they can slaughter High-Energy builds effortlessly.

    I personally like the fact that I can forego battling entirely, it doesn't interest me all that much, I'm content with blasting bosses and doing outbreaks.
  13. Das liebe Beil

    Das liebe Beil Well-Known Member

    You sneaky Ninja, while I was formulating a response, you already took away some of my worries. 5 k is quite the change already, but it wouldn't influence me directly, as I have below 5k Energy.

    I personally think that limiting Energy like that will not nip High Energy alt accounts. After all, they merely need to reach about Level 300 to unlock bosses that can be easily blasted and that would also work with having Energy limited to 2000. And no alt creator cares, if his alt is slowed down, this person still has loads of easy bosses available through that alt. I don't think that taking down Energy refills like that will help you there.
  14. Ace

    Ace Member

    I don't think any non-full energy account has over 3k on ZS. The other apps are a different story, but this is ZS we're talking about.
  15. Jessica

    Jessica Member

    For hi5 the highest energy user has over 9800 energy and has already said they will be leaving the game if the rules get changed after she's dedicated herself to that strategy.
  16. Kendall

    Kendall Administrator

    In total 14 players will be impacted reducing it to 5k. As I mentioned before, when we where adding levels the energy refill per level was an oversight on our part.

    A reasonable threshold for refill will likely be 4k.
  17. clubber

    clubber Member

    Thank God for that!

    P.S. Maybe incrase a little bit the battle's XP?
  18. Relentless

    Relentless Active Member

    What for? I thought you didn't want to level lol

    I don't care about xp but it would be nice if the fight limit was lifted a bit, even just to 50.
  19. Bob Cooks

    Bob Cooks Member

    I have 9000 energy and i have a completely legit account, it was my choice to build it this way so i don't care about anyone elses opinions.
    But i did this totally within the rules of the game, i didnt break any rules to go as good as i have.
  20. Ahad

    Ahad Member

    That would make my day, energy accounts die so very easily... No matter the level.

    As for the balancing issue, i think a 5000 energy refill upon level up would do nicely alongside 1000 stamina to balance it out nicely.

    Using all those skills for energy leaves your character so weak in other areas, and stamina even more so.

    I find even going to 1000 energy (for the achievement) is too many UNnecessary skills spent in things other than attack and health.


    Endless outbreaks make your finger so tired, even while "clicking the table", and i much prefer hunting to earn my billions... At the same time as costing people their precious XP.

    Seriously now, outbreaks were so boring. Who needs to farm thousands of destructives when they can't even fight anyone successfully. With OR without them.

    I love Kano, my hunter, the beginning of me showing CAFFEINE how this game is played...

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