Daily Reward System: Maintenance and Rework

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  1. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    Not all features are perfect and not all features stand the test of time.

    With that in mind, our current Daily Reward system sometimes resets, is more confusing than we would like, and isn't adopted or used as regularly as a daily feature should be. That's why we are implementing a new Daily Rewards system.

    The new Daily Rewards system will be more visible, still provide progressively better rewards, and (most importantly) give daily boosts.

    By improving this feature we will help incentivize players who regularly play our games, empowering proactive play.

    Players will still be able to select the type of Reward they want and may collect each the day they come into the game. These rewards will increase in value and include more than just Energy and Stamina (though players may choose to just have those if they'd like). Later rewards will include:

    • Items
    • Unique Loot Cases
    • Favor Points
    The proposed change will occur on November 27, at 11:00 am (PST) (https://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/). Please know that during this transition the Daily Reward system will be down for up to a day as the new feature is put in place. In light of this, we are giving players a three-day grace period to maintain the login streak. If you’ve played any time in the last three days, your streak will be preserved once the new system is live.

    We do recognize that our change will eliminate the ability to use several large Boosts in one go; you will instead use Boosts on a singular basis. However, players may still select to receive Stamina or Energy boosts in preparation for specific events.

    As with all of our changes, we will be monitoring engagement, feedback, and game-based metrics. We firmly believe that our game's success has been driven by an active and evolving game informed by player feedback. So, thanks in advance for letting us know your thoughts – good or bad.

    We do appreciate your time and consideration.

    *Update - Nov 27, 5pm*
    It is nearing end of day for our staff so the new Daily Rewards system will not be activated until the morning when we will be better able to answer your questions and take feedback. We appreciate your patience and we will be rolling out some bonus rewards for everyone as a token of our appreciation once this is all updated.
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  2. RafeDavid

    RafeDavid Well-Known Member

    I have to admit I quite enjoyed stacking my energy refills for the week prior to the start of raids however they are called daily rewards so I understand the logic behind saying they need to be used daily. It's just changing something that has been ingrained into the game for so long is going to rub some folks the wrong way. I'm of the belief save the complaints until it is rolled out and can see the changes in real time. I'm curious to see the unique loot cases and favor point rewards. I'm at 1577 consecutive days so assuming I will be able to jump right into those and test them out.
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  3. GoddessFreyja

    GoddessFreyja Active Member

    Why couldn't you wait to implement this change until AFTER the next raid is over? The majority of us that do the raids save up our daily rewards so that we can collect as many as possible when the raid starts. When the next raid starts on Thursday, I intentionally did not take my daily rewards so that I could accept 6 days worth of stamina when the raids starts. With the change starting tomorrow, now I'm screwed as are many others here. Seems like we're now being penalized by this new system and it's just another ploy to get us to use even more FP's to buy extra refills to recover the daily rewards that we won't get now. And you wonder why so many long-time players get disgusted and quit. Your timing stinks and I have NEVER seen the current daily reward system reset and I've been playing for more than 8 years. If people are confused as to how the current system works, perhaps they shouldn't be playing this game since a child could understand it.
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  4. Smack

    Smack Kano Krusader

    Unfortunately this is a global change that will affect all of our games at once so there was always going to be one game more affected than others in terms of Raids or other events that might be happening or scheduled.
  5. UNL Sassy Me

    UNL Sassy Me Member

    It was nice, but I guess "daily" is the key, Guess we should wait and see what is entails before we start complaining :) change isn't always a bad thing.
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  6. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member

    Ok so am I understanding this correctly, we will 'now' have to collect each day?? I am trying to understand , thanks
  7. GoddessFreyja

    GoddessFreyja Active Member

    Kano gave us the OPTION to accumulate up to 7 days worth of daily rewards. If there was such an issue with it not being collected daily, they should never have created the system that ALLOWED us to collect multiple days at once. I just wasted thousands of stamina that I was intentionally saving for the raid so that I could get my stamina low enough so that I wouldn't forfeit 4 days worth of daily rewards that I WILL collect tomorrow.
    bekka429, CrabbyOne, eck and 7 others like this.
  8. JADES

    JADES Well-Known Member

    So do we need to collect all rewards before November 27, at 11:00 am (PST), if not we lose them, or will they carry over after the transition?
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  9. Michael Boo

    Michael Boo New Member

    Since your way of promoting game play is by penalizing players who for whatever reason cannot play every day then you are not necessarily making much sense. Then again these game have not made much sense to me for a while now and I can see myself spending much more time on them since I have found far more interesting and challenging games to play. The main one of which gives a boost to those player who missed more than 48 hours so they could have a chance to catch up.
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  10. Kel the Merciful King

    Kel the Merciful King Well-Known Member

    I do wish you made the change after your biggest games' Raid event. Whatever it is, I am sure you will explain it more as more questions get asked (Edit: you have not yet at this time, yet it is imminent).

    For example, my guess is with stamina selected, you are going to start at a reward of 5% on Day 1, 10% on Day 2, 15% on Day 3, 20% on Day 4, 30% on Day 5, 40% or 10 FPs on Day 6, Crate or 50% on Day 7. If you take a Crate or the FPs, you go back to 5% and rebuild your daily reward. If you don't take a chance on a Crate or the 10 FPs, you stay at the 50% reward level.

    If you do the above, this is all to do about an improvement, very poorly worded.

    On the other hand, if you are doing something else than like the above, you may be looking at people wanting reallocations of Skill Points. The points were allocated over years of playing and the intention of what is out there as we progressed. You cannot retrogress a game for the people at higher levels who have paid in some cases a small fortune to your company. Further others who are not so trapped into what they have become by choices previously, have to look at new players having options they did not have coming up.

    I am not sure of course what you are doing as it appears to be an unnecessary mystery for such a hinted at broad change. The Kano Elves must be seriously kicking code butt and trying variations that even now it is not settled what will be, only that there will be a change.

    - Kel
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  11. Mad Moses

    Mad Moses Active Member

    I think it sounds good, Just hope we can still save a few for RB's, Thanks mi7ch! :)
  12. Jayne D

    Jayne D New Member

    I save mine for raid's & BA, so for me it's not a good idea, I think it's the people with loads of stamina (& spend large amounts of real money) who now controls what happens in Kano games,, why not be democratic & give the people who play an actual vote for/against these changes.
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  13. naughtygirl

    naughtygirl New Member

    Do i need to use what i have saved up to keep me from lossing it?
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  14. naughtygirl

    naughtygirl New Member

    New member really?
    Day 1266: 50% Boost to Stamina
  15. naughtygirl

    naughtygirl New Member

    Make that Joined 2325 days, 4 hours ago
  16. Jared

    Jared Well-Known Member

    It's not clear to me, but I believe so. Existing daily rewards can't be collected after 11 am PST on 11/27/2018.
  17. Jared

    Jared Well-Known Member

    Your ranking in the forums has to do with how many posts you make here, not how long you've actually played the games. So if you rarely post to the forums, you'll be a "new member" here for a while.
  18. Jared

    Jared Well-Known Member

    I have quite a few questions about this, and plenty to say. But I'll bite my tongue for now for several reasons and watch the posts from others roll in.
  19. AlterEgoT

    AlterEgoT Well-Known Member

    So the question we have all asked.........
    No stacking of the boosts correct?

    You realize that 90% of your players save these specifically for events that are so draining of resources.

    I mean sure in theory we can do rb's we just have to spread out the attacks over each day. But that's not reality.

    BA for instance. It's a day long event. 1 day (Horrendous, but that's what it is) Most of us if we enter count on that to be able to at least level a little during the event. Now in theory again, it affects everyone equally.

    But let's be real. the high levels in ZS need the entire 7 day boost to level with the events. Unless they are completely level builds. In which case most of them stay dead until they level.

    So the impact of this change initially to the long range slayers is we are no longer able to use events to level. We're confined to our normal level ratio. Which is about once per day using all resources.

    And to make us happy we get loot crates and drops. Both we have found are utterly useless for us except for the 500 energy for raid boss use.

    Please understand from our point of view this change simply says oh you guys aren't spending enough for events because you use your boosts so we must fix that. You want to compete in BA? You'll have to pay out the nose for it.

    It sounds exciting on the surface. OOO free stuff and rewarding daily play. But what it is translating to us is groan they took away our resources for the events.

    Is there by chance someone looking into the rate at which our xp is given to us for these events to help offset the difficulty we will now face? Because honestly? at 2 skill points per 1 stamina, we struggle to add enough stamina to do much in the game. Or can we "bank" them? what happens if we've collected our daily boosts of energy and stamina and so are already over our max stamina? will we be able to collect the daily reward? or will we have to spend in order to collect? That's not ideal when you are in the middle of a battle in arena. Can't say oops hold that thought let me go use my boost. Even if it pops up you are dead before you can collect and use from that.

    We need those stacked boosts to be able to at all participate in Raid bosses and BA's so please understand it is less about resistance to change and more we are assimilating the changes into a real world environment of which we are extremely familiar. We see impacts someone not hunting for resources might not and would like clarification so we are better able to address the new issues we face.

    Thank you,
  20. JADES

    JADES Well-Known Member

    From November 16th>>> https://forums.kanoapps.com/threads/tgif-development-news-for-november-16-2018.36132/

    From November 23rd>>> https://forums.kanoapps.com/threads/tgif-development-news-for-november-23-2018.36148/

    Was also somewhere that said will give ample time on update, (still no clue if need to collect now, or loose saved boosts)
    Ample time is 18 hrs.? Push this update back again until get 'ample' feedback.
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