[LCN] Raid Boss 3 Walkthrough and Feedback Thread

But we all know these raids are done with stamina and energy, ever since I heard about the months before they were implemented I started focusing on raising my stam and energy in 4 games, to help offset any issue, granted it takes time to build more stamina, but also what I get in return with my boosts and refills I get alot more each time, and it is helping me with these raids, as I keep adding skill points., but it also is helping alot with my daily playing .

 

I think you should take a second to think about what this game was designed as. A PvP game where the main focus is (or atleast was) beating your opponent. To beat your opponent you have to, yes you have guessed it right, be stronger than him. The easiest way to that without spending loads on GF items has been allocating skills to attack and def and some to health (for bushes, higher punch, higher attack on bosses etc.) and stamina (for XP and drops from bosses). Since the dawn of time the only thing the energy bar been useful for has been completing jobs faster and thus getting skill points faster. And by faster you could be looking at 1-7 days before other players. We all got the same reward in the end so high energy never really been that useful in the daily running of the game. Until now - Not because of raid bosses, but because job drops at level 6500+ is rivalling old GF items in strength.

The main point where you get it all wrong is when you compare an additional feature that raid bosses is to the main gameplay character build (levellers, fighters, punchers, boss hoggers). Also you seem to conveniently forget that this game is on its sixth year and that some has been here from the beginning (foxysiren among those). Now, after five years, there's finally a use for the energy. Bear in mind that some of us has gone pretty high up in the levels (I'm 8k+) with next to no remaining achievements we can get skill points from. Add to that the near impossible task it is to level further up to accumulate enough skill points required for raid bosses before year 2050. If New York is the start of a new level and London is the end of it, we at level 6000+ are navigating an oil tanker between those two locations while those from the first raid boss tier are flying a F-18.

Let's look at the other features just for fun:

Bosses: Stamina, health and attack strength. Allright, I can use that in a PvP fight.
Jobs: Energy only. Hmm, not been useful in fights so 5-600 been more than enough for the first 4,5 years. Finally useful at level 6500+ but not to that extent that it's worth chucking all skill points at.
Battle Arena: Stamina, attack & defense and health (+ creditcard). Allright, I can use that in a PvP fight.
Syndicate Wars: Stamina, attack & defense and health + cc and a group of people willing to play a boring feature for five mins a day.

Do you feel Kano been giving out hints along the way that Energy is the post to chuck skill points at, when you look at the main part of the game + the features before Raid Bosses came along? 'No' you say? Correct. So tell me why you feel it's right to tell those that complain that 'Well, your fault. You should have set your mobster up more more suited to this feature, even though energy been useless for 39539043940 years. Try distancing yourself from the other parts of the game so you can sit back, relax and enjoy the fun of playing a feature in a game that comes out every other month.' [paraphrasing]

I see you also mention that we higher levels want to distance ourself further from the lower levels. Well, you couldn't be more wrong. We ask for more balance. 1k stam at level 1000 gives you 5-6 levels + no need for energy refills because you don't get to use all 500 before you hit a new level. I know, because I'm a low-level on Server 2. On Server 1 I get 1/4 of a level if I use 1k stam on a raid. I also have to use 300-350 energy in addition. So for me (with 2,5k+ stam and 1k+ energy – which isn't unusual at my level) I can do the minimum required attacks on max 2 (ONE!) bosses a day when using stam + boost - and that rules out playing the other features like regular bosses, fighting, jobs etc while this feature is running.

But you're right, you could go down the easy way and just don't play the feature. That's always a solution for the likes of you (in this instance) and the Forum Spammer (everytime). Considering this is the (harsh?) reality for almost all of those over level 5k, what do you think will happen if all 5k+ players just didn't bother to join any bosses?

"But also going back to spending money, why do you feel you should be rewarded more then others because you spend real money, it stats very clearly a free to play game so it should be suited for all players and not those that just spend."

Not directed at me but: Haha. Yet again you get it all wrong. You think this game would survive if everyone carried the same mindset as you? Of course the spenders should be rewarded more, but that's not me (or foxysiren) saying we want to be treated as royalties and non-spenders as slaves.

 

What makes you think i don't play this feature, i finished the 1st raid boss on my own, not a brag just true, i have spent money and as you say you have been playing this game for nearly 5 yrs thats fantastic, i have been here nearly 3, but i don't think i should be more entitled then somebody just starting out or somebody lower then me. i have 4000 energy, i have made alot of my funds from having high energy, but quoting that im weak if i dont spend money is ridiculous there is ways to a certain extent. The end game is going to be the same for everybody, once the city's have been exhausted and the best boss items have been crafted it will come down to how much you have to spend on GF weapons, anybody that starts this game should know that. But how you set your mobster up is down to the player not anybody else, so asking for more because you don't have the right loadout/skill set up for a certain feature is pretentious at best. When i started there was nothing but war mode but i still added max energy, and considering i am optimizing my job weapons states that you have skipped this step which in the end given that we buy the same amount of strength GF weapons i will end up being stronger then you due to this.

 

That is because FKIT rules

 

I didn't say you didn't play this game but decided to give you a reminder about what the game is all about considering your statement suggests you have forgot. So, how did you finish your raid boss on your own? Loads of refills of course. So you're argumenting on my behalf now? It's not about how many years spent playing, but how far you have gotten. It's basically no incentive to play Raid Bosses for 6k+ players unless you are willing to spend hundreds (maybe even thousands) of GF and this is your only source of XP. Like I said, I get 1,5 levels at max with 6000 stamina and 2500 energy at my level (8k) – and it means I will have to ignore the main part of the game. Good on you for taking side with the non-spender though.

Good for you for earning money from your ridiculous high energy base (would be too much, even at level 12k), but that really doesn't justify the high energy does it? You could also earn way more cash from fighting (hitlist). And how do you see yourself getting to the level where I'm at with your energy base and without severely weaken yourself in PvP fights while at same time don't spend loads on GF items? Is it so hard to realize the higher you get, the more will skills allocated to attack and defense play a part? How can you optimize your weapon stats at level 4700 when the job drops at your level is and has been useless since they were introduced? Even if we were at the same level now, with the same amount of same GF items, you would still be significantly weaker than me if you build your character for raid bosses (4k energy plus stamina needed). You might be stronger for 1-2 days until I catch up with you in the job drop department. Anybody who starts this game should know that, to use your own words.

Come on, you do realise I'm not speaking for myself here but almost all of those at level 5k+ that plays this game for the main gameplay (fights, bosses, even all the other features)?

 

I don't know what your trying to imply with all this quotes, for 1 i didnt state i don't buy GF weapon's i stated i use job drops to there full potential, which is something you seem to have forgotten going through the levels maybe that is because you got stuck at level 6300 for a long time until you found your ideal LP, and for agreeing with your argument i dont see where i did all i said was the end game is the same for all players once all cities are finished and boss item plus crafting is done, then it comes down to how much you have to spend on GF weapons not that you have to as nobody can beat an ambush. As for how much i spent on the raid boss i did, i can assure you it cost no more then 60GF'S but then i do have 3500 stam as well as max energy, i just used my daily boosts to there full advantage, so it seems even though you have reached level 8k you have still not got a full grasp on how to maximize the game to its full potential which suggests to me you have wasted alot of your 5yrs in the game or skipping alot in order to get to a high level then playing the game in which it was intended.

 

WRONG! see you proved you don't really know what you are talking about.

 

Thats great considering he is in WM and that enables you to get the XP and win status, but nice try, but getting a level 10 to punch you to prove a point against level 6k plus is abit extreme if you did that against anybody above level 1000 you would not get the win.

 

LMFAO don't think there was WM the date I posted this picci (you see the date?) oh dear why are you looking for an argument everytime....You just keep proving to anyone reading you don't seriously have a clue. being in WM and someone attacks you you don't win the attack, but you should already know this, being an expert and all.

 

so attacking somebody that is a level 10 and has not spent a penny on anything with 10 mobbies and about 100 total attack/defense against somebody that has spent 11k real money and has 2k mobbies and has about 650k total att/def would suggest that you would be 100k times more stronger, all you have done is shown you can beat somebody with nothing behind them and that is it

 

You said nobody can beat an ambush...Oh what was that? I was wrong foxy hahaha
Your posts on here just flooded the main points of what people are trying to get the devs/mi7ch to see...We were trying to be helpful to other players who are experiencing the same problems we have encountered and all you want to do is argue about it.
My best bet is not to reply anymore.

 

Your argument to the devs is about high level players getting more out of RAID bosses then lower 1's that is your main point as you spend money so deserve more, and you couldn't argue any more as it states in the pic you posted that you would be 100k stronger then him so what point have you made, Kano will not change the XP on these bosses just for higher players who feel hard done by, if you high levels dont play them they will still continue to roll them out, high players do not dictate the game as that is what your trying to do, the RAID boss is there just for extra ways of making XP not a total source of making XP.

 

You are very ignorant to the problems in hand.
I do not come to the forum and talk about things I have no clue about, ironic because the xp you get from raid bosses should be more based on that level 1k.
I will always win I just won't do the Raid bosses anymore and go back to leveling.
I also never said I deserve more all I am asking for is the SAME. I do not think you have read all the posts properly and are just set in your argument.
It does not matter how strong a player is we want what most would call fair, as jamey stated earlier why should we be paying to do raid bosses when clearly lower levels leveling quicker do not.
Take a step back and think about it. Also 1 last point I am not trying to dictate anything...I do not believe the devs have high level accounts on which they test these bosses on I am trying to be helpful not greedy.
Throughout your posts you have said quite a few things that aren't true which leads me to wonder how much do you actually know and no it's not a question directed at you but i'm sure you will have something else to say. But for me I feel I have spammed this thread enough, hopefully it will get 'cleaned up'.

 

Maybe the true fact is that you have not read the thread properly, you stated on 1 of your own threads that a level 1037 made 210k XP compared to your 430k XP for the same amount of atts/healing, how is that fair to the LOWER levels, enough is enough, nearly everything in the game is aimed at higher levels or people that spend money, BA is a perfect example, it is aimed at higher levels and people that spend, how much do you make XP wise compared to that same level 1037, this RAID boss as you state is unfair maybe it is an excellent way to balance things up..

 

EQUALITY!!!!!

 

then everything should be the same throughout in every feature, BA nobody allowed to spend more then a level 1k normal bosses have a tier level with a set limit on all of them so everybody does the same amount of damage, see this can go on and on if your shouting EQUALITY due to you getting more XP then a lower level on a RAID boss

 

No what should happen is every level across the board should get the same ratio of XP for the amount of xp needed to level...This thread is about Raid bosses nothing else. Please try to keep it on topic at least.

 

I was, but your shouting EQUALITY across the board which entails the whole spectrum of the game, but because i mentioned not spending more in BA then a 1k level which then would seriously effect you, you don't like it. Again it comes down to higher level players wanting more then they are entitled to on a RAID boss which is just a source for extra XP. everybody seems to want something for nothing, The best bet would be to get rid of all extra features in the entire game and just leave normal bosses and calendars that way there wont be people feeling disgruntled from a game.

 

I don't even play BA lol just enter for the free xp what on earth are you on about?
My EQUALITY is posted on a thread for Raid bosses, i'm not even sure how you make up your replies.
I'll say it again the same ratio of xp across the board for all levels.

 

Battle Arena
Total Attacks:402616: Top 5% Finishes:25
Total Kills:669: Top 10% Finishes:27
Top 20% Finishes:27
That seems like somebody just joining for free XP