Kano Come on Down. Address the issues we all see and fix 1 at a time with your player

I will make it simple and hound you with one issue at a time to address and fix.

Battle Fighting. When are you finally going to admit the numbers have dwindled and even if we remove the players around us on a fight list it won't make an impact in helping to add players to the fight list as you have suggested many times in the past.

Simple resolvement of issue Get those undead players you have either banned frozen or no longer playing active and lets get the ass hats fighting back in the game.

And Took less then 2 mins to run the undead and kill them all to the limit been there done that. And today alone 4 players only on my fight list on and off all day. You kick them into the hospital you wait until they come back on to heal and i know they feel the same way on their end with their players. We used to have lists of 30 to 50 players to choose from at a time to fight. Heal them up and lets do this feature already.

And please don't use the excuse anymore we can't do that to players. You did it when you changed your mind on the bounty feature for inactives frozen and banned players. You can do the same to this aspect liven up your game again.

 

The idea of taking old accounts and healing them up for the Battle list certainly has merit, however a direct parallel to Davy Jones bounties can't be drawn. I spoke with the developers about this and it's a fairly simple matter to see who posted the Bounty (if it was "Davy Jones" then remove the normal consequences) but it's much more difficult at the moment to build something similar out for Battles.

However, they did say that this is something we can look into but it might take us some time to build out a system where we can put players on the Battle list for you to hit without negatively affecting their stats. That might not seem like an important consideration to some but it's still something we have to take into account when offering up players for this type of situation.

We're definitely interested in investigating the possibility of adding something like this and exploring the time it would take to build a framework to make this a viable feature. I'll make sure to put that on our list of to-dos for the coming months.

 

Well at least we have a response finally. And i will take that and appreciate the response. Now the other thing to add back is why would it matter about their stats. They abandoned the game. And as everyone will say it's stats whoopie doo. Who cares about win losses if you look at some of the players through out the game i would say 99 percent really don't care. How about kano puts a poll in their game asking the community they have done this in the past and need to utilize this feature again polling the gaming community not on forums but in game.

 

I imagine some players do return after a period of time and we don't want to scare them off again by having them come back to an account that's been used as a punching bag without their knowledge. There is a sense of ownership that comes with these accounts some may get offended if we've been offering them up as target practice. While stats may not be important to some it's still something we have consider when building features that take advantage of accounts that have been left to lie fallow.

I should mention that that is something we can think around as well, we try to be as malleable as possible.

 

Thank you for addressing this Mi7ch. And i will leave this one be since you guys are considering it. But tomorrow be ready for my next question. And again address to kano please consider bringing the polling back into the games once again. It can be a pop up box that pops up in the game until they answer it and then it goes away just like before. Have a goodnight. And thanks again.

 

and as i mentioned before.. what about those that declan them causing their clan size to go down? How will you give them that back?

 

I dont like the sounds of this idea one tiny bit. If ya dont have enough players on your battle page thats just to bad....perhaps one shouldnt out pace the masses if they want a full battle page. Its pretty obvious if you're gonna jump out in front of where most the players are that your not gonna have many to battle. There is still plenty of content to be had....kick back and enjoy it while you wait for others to catch up. As far as stats are concerned......of course u cant let stats be affected. Simply because some players dont care about them does not mean others should get screwed over simply because someone leveled themselves out of most players range. Doing just the banned accounts simply wouldnt be worth the trouble of pushing out an update like this so dont bother. Not to mention....what about all the players that have had lil or no battle page for years now and had to rely on the much more stamina costly and lesser XP bosses? An update like this would be another slap in the face

 

nothing wrong with a little slap in the face every now and then haha i could go either way on this one, im not a battle guy with the exception of the arenas so it wouldnt really affect me but the idea has merit for those that are. if this would push thru, i think there would have to be a time period restriction of at least a year or more for abandoned accts and no restriction for the perm banned ones

 

I, as well as Jon are not the higher level players, I am where I am in over three years of playing ,no leveling with anyone and I usually only have 1 to 3 people to fight"""" if """I am lucky and that is rare,( lately the one player is not even available to fight , only as an undead) so I wait all day just to do the fight DGP's and wind up using the undead which takes too long and even on that list there is only one player ( same player) who gives me decent xp , so as a" mid" level 5900 I am finding it harder and harder to do even fight DGP's I have to rely on being listed by some enemies to give me a rival list and if I am lucky they don't hit and hide , which happens 90 % of the time. So yes it is getting harder to find someone to fight,unless some low levels try for my bounty .

 

which platform do you play on? if its server 2 you can always beat me up for dailys

 

I havent had much of a battle page in years and even my undead list is fairly short and I cant remember ever having an issue with getting DGP for fights. If i ever did find myself with that problem I would just ask a guild/clan member to let me hit them.

I just find it odd that some who played their way out of fighting range of most would want new content to appease them when they so adamantly oppose other types of new content for other players that have outplayed current game content.

I also dont think there is enough players in the 5k or higher level range that have quit or been banned to make enough of an impact on other players battle pages to warrant an update like this. What about the highest of levels? How many accounts in the the 10-20k level range have quit or been banned?.

If something like this was brought to the game how would it work? Would these players never die and just offer up unlimited number of attacks? If they are put in the hospital like a normal account do they disappear from everyone's page whos range they are in? How along would it take for them to regenerate health? Would it work just like undeads? Whats the point of that when u can get better XP and drops from a boss than u can an undead?

 

Polish there is a difference to argument in new content for the levelers who have surpassed all the content and to the ones who actually keep a pace with the game constantly moving. Like Linda said we move a pace the battle list has been like this since the 3800's levels hasn't improved one bit. And as counted with all the undead players in range 38 players different who either don't play at all or banned not sure. But their are 10 active players total in my range your lucky if you have 3 players active during the time your on. As Demonik said i believe arena is the only time you might see all them on at the same time because they are fighting an active list in arena. But soon as you knock them down to health they will stay there until they level up from an arena or heal. But after arena is over your back to the same 3 active players. But the past few months i am lucky to have 4 on at the same time if they go off you put them in the hospital you have to wait. Now if your supposed to keep movement in the game as you have suggested in the past also to get to places your losing that movement when no one is their to fight. That is a lot of loss experience in the game to lose. I could easily level 5 to 8 times in just battles with people when the fight lists were pretty decent. Now you can barely level 1 time on a fight list if your lucky.

 

Keep pace? So who gets to determine what the correct pace is...you? The game is constantly moving despite one level. If your battle page started to dwindle at level 3800 and has only gotten worse would u not be out pacing the majority of players? You obviously noted this change was happening is the onus not on you at that point to slow down and keep pace if u want to keep a full battle page? Thats pretty much what u said about the "levelers" in regards to running out of new content at the end of the game...right? How is that different? You knew your battle page was dwindling and you chose to level up anyways just like the "levelers did. What about "movement" for those you call the "levelers"? According to you they reap what the sewed and are left doing whatever is left to continue their movement. Why are you and others not to adhere to that same standard ? Why would it be any different? Its all about personal choice and the benefits and or consequences is it not?

 

Well not sure about anyone else, but if leveling few times a day is moving too fast, I really don't know what to say about that. So when someone reaches level 3800 or whatever level it might be, they should just pack it in then cause the fight list is small, actually the fight lists have been small for a long time,and some of it has to do with the majority of players that either kill themselves or leave their health down till they come back online, not even sure what if an solution there is but it is what it is. I look at people's stats alot level with just the undead, that is not my thing, takes to long and crap xp ,so I wait to be listed and then go to town,if the brave hunters don't go hide,and I certainly am not gonna attack a stronger player for DGP's like alot of nitwits do, and I am a player who has that done to me daily,not as much in PC but in LCN and VC it is like some epidemic of ......... for me it is about winning a fight not losing just to do DGP's. But at least in VC and LCN I have a fight list ,but I am also a lower level having started those games way after PC.

 

Uh oh now I have gone and did it 6 levels and got 6 kills in the arena , I really messed myself up now, Oh wait still the same battle list of dead players , but not to worry my rival list from being listed last night allowed me an easy battle DGP result today.

 

i went a few years with no battle list why should it be more better for you ... you do get rivals you no thats what kano told me ...

 

lol. Just random numbers but I dont think 8 levels a day is would be considered going nuts ...but if a player thats played for 1500 days averaged 8 levels a day they would be a level 12000 and waaaay ahead of the pace. Toss in the fact that at the very early stages most players get dozens of levels a day so they would far exceed that even

 

Who gets to determined the pace no one Polish. And to answer your question you just stated 1500 days 8 levels 12000 you would be in level your own math i will take it as your correct that has out paced the game. My pacing haven't out paced the game. And games eventually when numbers dwindle have to look at other options to improve game content and this is considered a game issue. If certain players seemed to think it's fine that is their choice other's not so much. But again some of us fight with kano to continue to improve the game where others choose not to or don't believe kano will do anything. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt and hassle them my way into listening with good ole banter just like i enjoy with you Polish..

P.S. I didn't see all you guys jumping up and down complaining about them doing the bounty boards this way. If kano takes away the stat issue from harming players precious numbers then it won't matter about having more active players.

P.P.S. Also kano could consider what i mentioned long long time ago. Putting Kano accounts in the game computer generated of course load them out with items and stats and challenge to beat them on the fight list and they can hit you back also. But again no one liked that idea and those would have never been active players or banned players or players who have left.

 

I agree with you that there are times when Kano need to look at other options to address issues. Dwindling numbers numbers is one of them as well is new content at the end is another.

This particular issue u brought up is a valid issue that I agree needs to be addressed in some manner ...I just dont agree with some of the particulars of this proposed idea as to how to fix it. Im not slamming the idea just to slam it...just pointing out some of the things I disagree with in effort to come up with a workable idea that will satisfy as many as possible while also having the least amount of negative impact on others.

In regards to the bounties of inactive and banned accounts.....thats different because those bounties go up for everybody despite level and restrictions (although they do count towards the bounty delay/block of real players....UGH). Your suggestion that they add inactive or banned accounts to the battle page will benefit some segments of the player population much more than others. As i said in my previous post.....How many high level accounts are either inactive or banned in comparison to low or mid level accounts? Some players in some games will never see any benefit from this while other level ranges will benefit tremendously I know you dont have much sympathy for high leveled players and that fine....but the fact remains that they deserve no less than any other player in these games. This idea in its current form just adds more of the same in terms of of the higher levels getting left out when in reality....who is in more need of a bigger battle page and for much longer? We can debate all day whos at fault and why but in the end there are issues that need to be addressed and no particular segment of players deserve to get the short end of the stick more times than not.

The whole Kano account thing isnt a bad idea....I think i suggested something similar myself a long ways back. Not only will their stats not matter but they can make accounts of all differnt levels to satisfy everyone despite their level. But even this idea has a lot of things that need to be considered. How many accounts must they make to satisfy everyone? The Xp received from kano accounts would need to be fixed so its relative to an individuals level and attribute numbers rather than one size fits all. Would these accounts only be available when someone has no fight list? If they were available all the time why would someone attack a real player and risk retaliation? Theres a heck of lotta things that would need to be ironed out but hey...thats what the forums are for.

 

I don't have an issue against high level players in reality i am number 15 on my list being the highest level person of all my friends who play. And going by the world leader board i was in the low 50's last time i checked maybe under that by now. It's not against high level players i have issues with it's levelers who level way to fast in games and demand new content companies can't keep up with that and when they try to appease that small margin other issues in the game get overlooked to long and then another issue that needs attention that shovels it more down the list in the bottomless black hole abyss. That is my issue with levelers who do this every game i have ever played i have hated people who do this. Your race to be number 1 and get that high only screws you in the process out of everything the game can offer to you. From my understanding the top guy doesn't have no one to fight because no one is in range of him yet. Not sure if this is true or not but if it goes by levels tiers then it should be true to a certain percentage. So this means that player only has adventures bosses and arenas and wars to participate. Otherwise he lost his fight list. I hope i explain it in better detail now why i am against those 1 percenters as i call them

Now on your issue about it might give an upper hand to the players who still have decent battle lists this implementation of fighting will only be accessed once you hit that certain level restricion that you lose 90 percent of your battle list. Just like arena has a level restriction to join they can easily implement it the same way for battle lists. Heck you didn't even get undead until at least near 1000 in level so they can easily add this feature also.