Bounty cost disparity discussion

I am curious if anyone else finds the difference in bounty costs to the point of ridiculous.

This in my opinion has been an issue since the 4th property was dropped in but now it seems to be to the point of absurd.

Playing on KP2 there is no way on earth that if I chose to go after a small level they could do a thing, the traps are beyond their income much less listing. yeah they can call in help but by the time one tracks down someone not squad willing to tangle with a level 3k plus the 3k is long gone.

I'm wondering if thought has been put into limiting the number of properties released as we add new countries in the future.

sure it's nice having a 1 tril starting base but it is also very dull. As the bounties get out of the realm for the level 1-2k's to list you really have very little to do unless you have cultivated a rival.

So this is the cycle I see....

Your below 1k's are the ones that give you the bosses and helps
Your 1-2k's are your heavy listers
your 3ks and up are your catchers and boss killers

It's gotten out of proportion to allow for every level to participate fully in the game.

High levels are accused of either hoarding or bullying.
Low levels complain about being killed to oblivion and broke

Now we've added vault achievements to further strain the economy so to speak.

Anyone have suggestions on how to encourage activity again? Because quite frankly one can only kill so many level 500 bosses and hit that outbreak button so many times. The FW and BA have gotten stale but they still offer the excitement the game now lacks.

Case in point:
Level 1500 fully upgraded....................VS .................Level 3000 fully upgraded
Base HL Cost: $48.159 billion...............................................Base HL Cost: $1,219,342,493,530
Income per Hour: + $3,210,216,900......................................Income per Hour: + $81,280,016,900
......................................................................................Cost to Trap: 609,671,246,765

That's nearly 8 days to earn the trap cost if relying on income.
And 2 weeks to be able to hitlist once.

Now you figure that the list has all but dried up (let's face it those UN hits you spend as much healing as you collect)

It seems to me the answer is usually well stay out of their radar. Yeah yeah.....booooring. and so don't fight anyone because that's what squad does, jumps in and helps. Beyond that the next solution everyone offers is well let's make it not possible for them to attack. Um nope even worse.

So how about we just address the fact that along the way the numbers got skewed and make it just a weeee bit more feasible.

The large accounts have earned their stats and their right to be slightly untouchable. But how about we at least make it realistic.

Thoughts?

 

idk there alter, as you and your friends have seen im nowhere near level 3k and i have no problems trapping and listing you all. i think some are just too stingy with their money which really makes no sense to me cause on zs its pretty pointless since the number of properties you can buy are limited. if youre so concerned about not being retaliated by lower levels then go after the higher ones....beyond that theres not really much you can do unless youre a dev haha

 

chuckle. I rather long ago gave up actually playing the game. I just look for ways to make it fun on KP it's a lot easier for the littler ones to defend themselves on fb simply due to there aren't many of us left speaking of fun, sure do appreciate you playing along. That was fun.

But you make a good point. On FB I manage to trap pretty well.

I think my point is more, we need the list going to keep things moving both for the entertainment value and for the economy. And I really do feel like every time we drop in a new country the list goes stale as people adjust to the new outrageous bounties and each time it starts to come back there is a little less listing, folks hesitate more and more each time about well let's let em reset. This time we had the double whammy of vault achievements dropped in.

 

Making easier to the alt accounts to hitlist the higher lvl players? Why ? They can play only a few mins/day to use their energy to make money and cant lvl up to unlock more city's?
Until there are so many ALTs, or say friend accounts that transfer money to their main account from time to time when they saved enough, better no changes. Instead of listing back the alts and give away more money, or there are people who can stay on hitlist for hours then killed by their friends, or hitlist prices kept artificially high all the time, I better chose to make the vault achievement. When the alts and bots are gone, I will rethink.

 

i get what youre saying, i just dont understand why people hoard their money on zs...its pretty pointless...ill save up a couple trill then go piss off some peeps and get my exp in the red for a day lol

 

Honestly, who cares?

You'd really rather sit bored than play?

Easier to list them? please. It's a trillion a list as it is. What you want totally immunity? Believe me I've gotten that high over the rest it's boring. But hey if deaths matter that much fine have at it. Keep the cash and the game.

As for the whole alt conspiracy really. Who cares. hate me if you want but I don't have a problem with them really. qutie frankly it's no different than a well run faction. I've fought both folks with 5 or 6 accounts and well run factions of 25 by myself. It's no different except you know which 5 or 6 are coming with the alts.

And for that matter. Not everyone under a gazillion levels is an alt. Many are folks from different platforms that have moved over and learned it's dull sitting at the top where all that happens is you get called bully and wait for someone to save up the cash to list.

Is levelling really that big of a deal? What is the almighty rush to grab another level to have less to do? or is it the death stat. Cause who cares it's a stat just like any other. If stats are that important stick to your fl avoid the hl and woohoo instant perfect stats. I don't even ambush and I have decent ones. But again. BORING. Now bots and scripts? Yeah I have issue with that. It prevents others from playing.

This is my style of play and by no means every one should want to play that way. But how about we open the game back up to where every level can have some fun. Shoot it's not like the little one is going to come out on top at the end of it all but at least they can give a good show.

All that being said. I post this from both perspectives but what got my attention on the bounty was playing my level 3k. And realizing There was simply no way the little one could do much. Not many can take the beating Demonik got and not leave frustrated. I'd really rather not run off the smaller players on an already dying game but at the same time the high levels should have a little action.

But I get that some people actually care about being the biggest and the best. Me? I don't. It's a game and I'd like it to be fun. Stopping by to drop stam and energy is not fun. An active game is.

Been a rotten weekend so I must apologize that my tone of voice is not as gentle as it normally is. I'm just tired of alt conspiracies and a game that continues to die.

So if anyone has an actual suggestion to fix the game I'd love to listen. This was not meant as a bitch and moan post. Simply and observation from someone that plays both levels and realized. Heck i wouldn't be able to fight myself the way the bounties are getting.

 

I've been saying for ages that this is out of hand as it is now a lvl 3,000 could ruin a lvl 300's game very cheaply and there's nothing the little'un could do about it maybe set 1 trap and bankrupt themselves...then find a new app to play....which is what I see happening almost daily *shrug

Despite claims of an influx in new players across the platforms, no new blood isn't going to hang around and be a higher levels play thing.

So yeah, this needs fixing

 

they tried that with me a couple times, if you know how to play then it doesnt ruin anything...there isnt anything people could do to me that i cant overcome. and here i am 1200 levels later and scufflin with the highers...its all good fun to me, it what makes a game challenging and brings out the strategist in me. you cant break me, only motivate me to play harder and smarter

 

Try FB VC, same problems in essence due to lotto buyers. There are quite a few with over 300T base bounties. Nothing can really do, if lower level, besides just take it.

 

Yes...but you knew what you were doing from either playing elsewhere or another kano app.

This is exactly the point, just 'taking it' isn't gonna fly... people play for fun so when this stuff starts happening they move onto another app.
We need new people, but the game isn't evolving enough, when I started playing ZS there wasn't even a level 1000, 1 billion bounties were a rarity and there was only 3 properties per location, so back then the level 300 bounty threshold was just fine. Fast forward a few years, there's tonnes of level 2000+'s, 4 properties per location and the average bounty is 100+ billion.

 

well the people that move on arent the ones we want playing it anyway, or am i mistaken? we want fighters and fighters dont move on, they overcome. let the people that move on keep on moving and suggest a less combative game for them. yes, ive played vc for about 4 or 5 years but dont most players have a gamer history?

 

On FB VC if look at leader board max listed is ~5 Quad (yes Quad), shows how things have changed.

 

xD im still workin on my 5 quad hoard acheeve lolol the money over there is so insane