[VC] Update to how Ranking is Determined in the Battle Arena

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by mi7ch, Dec 5, 2013.

  1. Jared

    Jared Well-Known Member

    Yes. No. I don't have the time to check 300 profiles from the past arena to get a better idea, but are you telling me that there aren't at least 100 players that will meet the minimum attack requirement for possible rewards? If so, I find that hard to believe. If not, then there is no point in even entering if there is no chance of getting anything else besides the sign up XP. Don't forget, this issue was already addressed, and inactive players were not eligible to get full rewards inside the top 50. Thank you for your support for opting out. Good luck to you as well... although I'm pretty sure "luck" isn't necessary for you, your account seems built pretty well! :p
     
  2. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    Lol...I dont blame ya...I dont feel compelled to check all the profiles either. But Im confident that in many of the smaller arenas there was far fewer than 100 active players. Some arenas barely get 200 entries...the majority of which are inactive based on my past experience.


    Honestly I dont see this update having much of an impact at all, the limit to be considered eligible is still way to low. I would imagine its gotta suck to have thousands of attacks and lose out to someone with 100 due to either the random chance of them not showing up on the rival page often if ever until near the end or because they got their 100 attacks and decided to go into defensive stance. If the lower participation arenas werent so bias towards defensive accounts then this update would really be something to crow about. Its a step in the right direction but much more need to be done to make the arena as originally intended/stated.
     
  3. JADES

    JADES Well-Known Member

    PIMP, you even said only make change awhile back on the smaller platforms. This has effected every single platform and game, NOW your asking for more attacks than the current 100 to get rewards? Look maybe it's good for you as being one of the highest level on MS, all I see is that "you" want no one in defense at start so can pound them into the ground. Fair? yes to the highest of levels. Guessing you'll say that it's made for actives that highest level's have no rival's, here's a "thought", quit running away and out leveling them to have someone to fight if you are so worried about it. I'm level 7400 on FB VC and strong character and can get taken out in less than a minute with slider, I bet same on MS, FAIR again? If people continue to join because of this new change in my opinion, is they will grab 100 hits at start, 100 when come out of defense stance, or simply not join at all. WTG, I applaud this new change, NOT!
     
  4. Jared

    Jared Well-Known Member

    I choose option 3 (in bold).
     
  5. Larry Skary

    Larry Skary Member

    I just finished the arena in PC and i will say IMO the new change is great and the fact we have to wait for rewards while Kano sorts it all out is good. i was able to get in a few kills and a few levels and enjoyed this arena more than i have the last few.
     
  6. Lawskar

    Lawskar Member

    I think it was hinted at earlier, but in the interests of total fairness: Can we have more equitable start times; I'd love to play every one as an active to qualify.... Unfortunately, half seem to begin either late pm or early am in Europe... The majority of Arena's launch times definitely suit the American time zones and in particular the West Coast.. Shockingly biased in my opinion!!!
     
  7. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    As nice as that would be that everyone could make every arena ....No start times are going to be optimal for all time zones. The current 4 diff start times pretty much ensures everyone gets at least one decent start time 1 outta 4 times. If I had to guess it would be that in large part the start times are set more so to suit what ever time zones the majority of Kanos players reside in.
     
  8. Jared

    Jared Well-Known Member

    Please disregard this post. I have submitted the following revision to my tickets below:

    Please disregard these tickets (it appears that 2 or 3 of them have been merged together). A Kano employee posted in the forum that opt out requests will not be considered. No response is necessary to these tickets.

    Also, I don't believe that start times really have anything to do with anything. When I have more time, I will back up my statements with more information once I've been able to put it together, so everyone can see what I'm talking about.
     
  9. John Luna

    John Luna Member

    I believe it would be a better idea to limit the deff time or just remove it when 50 or less players left unless the player begins to battle. It has to be fair for those who do play the arena and battle thru it.
     
  10. 'David Ramos

    'David Ramos Active Member

    From my experience in the Arena over the last few months is this-- I start out in def mode- cause I'm never online when it starts & usually am dead when I do log in only a few hours after start. and at level 100 (or so)--without fighting. BUT that small chance I am there at start of Arena- I get a few attacks in & seems my name goes to top of list to get attacked?? & get killed in minutes!! Also MANY high level players put ALL their ALTS in- & when they see that their ALTS are getting hit- they kill that person!!! Case in point-- a while ago a real high level player (we all know who that is)- came in 1st place- & 2nd place was "someone" lower level with 0 attacks-- hhmm?
    Another time with only 2 players left," both" logged off for 12 or so hours- then" both" logged in same time-
    I think I'll always start in def mode-- then get my 100 attacks in when defense mode is over or when I start getting hit
     
  11. As there are 4 different start times for the arena on a cyclic basis, would it not be fair to make the difference between the times every 6 hours to spread it across a full day? Or leave it at 4 hours and have 8 diffferent start times? Then everyone would get a fair chance irrespective of which time zone they reside in.
     
  12. Larry Skary

    Larry Skary Member

    i just checked the recent Pirate arena and there was 175 players with only 41 being active. so yes there are arenas where 100 players do nothing.
     
  13. JADES

    JADES Well-Known Member

    I think "all different platforms" should have own threads, FB VC is nothing short in participation. Why discourage our players due to lack of participation to the other platforms, with these new rules?

    2 day's till arena start, and at Number of Participants:1,363 when usually closer to 1700
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2013
  14. 38 were considered active. The rest had under 100 attacks and were considered inactive.
     
  15. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    Huh? When did I ever say that i dont want players to start in defense? FYI...I havent done any serious leveling in well over a year in any of my games (and wont be anytime soon till/if Kano gets things sorted out)....so how am i running away? Even funnier is that u think leveling up is running away in a game that rewards leveling up......so does that mean u are running away from everyone below you? Nice logic! Another FYI....I retired my first account when it was #1 by far and then started all over again and took that account to #1....thats not running away thats running in circles....lol ;)
     
  16. 'David Ramos

    'David Ramos Active Member

    well my 2 cents are worth crappola-- but Arena starts in 12 hours & it will be 2am my time, then GW & 3day Calender! ?? come on--I just hope my defense mode lasts a few hours till I wake up--& MAYBE get a few thousand attacks in-- I saved my boosts for 6 days to actually be active in ARENA-- but guess I'll be dead at opening-- im level 5700 w/ 12k def- & 5K attack so my stategy is kinda screwing me eh?-- oh well hhmmm?? who will get top 100? or top 3? my bet is Alrik 1-- cdog-2 & Kel ??
     
  17. Maler

    Maler Member

    if you want to play the arena, you get up. my start times are : 8 AM, 8 PM, 00 and 4 AM. Sometimes i find time to play, sometimes i don't. you never know who is going to win. not always kel or alrik, one time john fuse won and many others. it's a battle royal, who plays it better wins.
     
  18. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    No disrespect bro but listen to what your saying, it wasnt all that long ago most of us were up here complaining we didnt have enough to do. Now the opposite is true, is that really a bad problem to have? The reality of things is we have a choice...nobody is twisting your arm saying u have to take part in all 3(or r they? i've heard rumors Mitch has been strong arming players with kitty pictures and bad jokes ;)).

    These game and there different facets are not a god given rights nor are they mandated . As great as it would be if we could all do everything at an optimal time for each of us is simply unrealistic. As much as I dont agree with a lot of things and how they are formatted/done Im still thankful that I can log on pretty much whenever and there will be something to do in one of my games. This wasnt the case for the vast majority of the time Ive been around and I can def think of bigger problems to have.

    As far as saving your boosts for 6 days.....did u happen to take a look at the start time when u signed up for the arena? 12k defense is pretty good....sounds like you may at least have a shot at being alive when ya get there, thats better than most and not a bad deal considering.

    Calendars and Wars run around the clock and can be done at anytime...not sure what the big deal there is. Personally Im not a big fan of how often they put out the calendars (has made them boreing imo)but Ive never had an issue with doing them during an arena, click click done.


    In the end bro....if this arena isnt optimal for you dont sweat it...just focus on your calendar and your wars and get in the next one...no biggie.
     
  19. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    Couldnt agree more. Either WE make the time or WE dont. Whats optimal for one player will always be lousy for another. Be thankful we have options!
     
  20. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    This is probably one of my favorite things you've ever written during my time in the forums, Polish. Also, did you say kitty pictures?

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