[VC] Crafting Recipes for Battle of Bifrost Are Now Live!

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by mi7ch, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    These crafting recipes are now live! Who doesn't like rainbow swords?

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  2. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    Very cool...TY!
     
  3. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    The lump of coal or flawless diamond no longer exists, or are they secret gifts now?


    Also curios as to why Nebuar armor which is the opposite heimdallr dagger in terms of numbers...132-110 vs 110 vs 132 is so much harder to obtain? The nebular item takes a challenge reward item n gifts while the dagger only needs a random adventure drop n gifts. any particular reason defensive item is harder to obtain?
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2013
  4. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    To answer your questions...

    1) This has been changed ;)

    2) I've been told that none of the recipes require a challenge reward item.
     
  5. Deblovscats1

    Deblovscats1 Active Member

    I have a question, is there any possibility of getting more Elites & Legendary Items?

    Skadi's Blizzard, Heimdallr, Thrym, Jormungandr, Helreginn Returns, Ratatoskr, & The Last Stand of Heimdallr ~ These all have Rewards that are randomly awarded during boss attacks that need to be made into Elite & Legendary so they can be of use to higher levels players.

    Right now, Skadi's Blizzard, Heimdallr, Thrym, and Jormungandr are totally useless Boss's for higher level players!

    The Snowcapes from the Skadi's Blizzard need to be made into Elites & Legendary.

    The Healer Clerics from the Heimdallr need to be made into Elites & Legendary.

    The Chopblades from the Thrym need to be made into Elites & Legendary.

    The Snake Eye Gems from the Jormungandr need to be made into Elites & Legendary.

    The Paladin Sage from the Helreginn Returns need to be made into Elites & Legendary.

    The Acorn Sling from the Ratatoskr need to be made into Elites & Legendary.

    The Bronze Blade from The Last Stand of Heimdallr need to be made into Elites & Legendary.


    Please consider making random drops from the newer Bosses into Elite & Legendary items through the Blacksmith.
     
  6. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    We're currently re-examining how crafting works throughout the games, so we can mix things up a bit more as opposed to just sticking to the standard normal-Elite-Legendary crafting progression.

    This thread over in the Pirate Clan forums should give you an idea of what we're trying.
     
  7. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    hmmmm, I like that Kano is trying to change things up a bit and keep things new and exciting....but it would be nice if we got a bit of heads ups well before it happened so we could at least try to make some educated guesses/choices. Personally Ive collected a lot of those drops and endured horrendous XP at quite a significant stamina/FP cost thinking they would be used as the others had. To outta the blue change something that has been a certain way for so long without warning is kind of messed up. Granted...we will have to wait and see...perhaps it will be something even better than the way it was. But im already a bit nervous that Ive wasted my time and stam/Fp on getting drops that might very well not have been worth it. I'll try to bite my tongue until the jury gets back though ;)

    Btw, the link u provided just goes to the intro of the new PC boss and crafting recipes. I believe i know which thread you were referring to but I couldnt find it. It had to do with crafting being tied to adventures at a much higher cost.
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2013
  8. Deblovscats1

    Deblovscats1 Active Member



    My guess is that it would be this Link ~ http://forums.kanoapps.com/showthre...Lost-World-and-Crafting-What-You-Need-to-Know


    And if you are referring to the way you did these last set of crafting items, that's all well & good....BUT We (Higher Levels) as Pimp said have "collected a lot of those drops and endured horrendous XP at quite a significant stamina/FP cost thinking they would be used as the others had" and have accumulated a LOT of the Boss drops that you get as you battle the Boss. And my whole point of asking is that these drops that are randomly awarded during boss attacks are totally useless unless we can make them stronger because our whole inventory of Weapons & Warriors are much stronger as we have leveled up.

    For example..... A Warrior or Weapon with an Attack of 64 & Defense of 64 was fantastic when I was a level 4000 - 7000. After Level 7000 I started using less & less of 64/64 started having to upgrade all my Elites to Legendary to try to improve my Stats.

    Now I have all these Weapons & Warriors the are from the newer Bosses (IE: Skadi's Blizzard, Heimdallr, Thrym, Jormungandr, Helreginn Returns, Ratatoskr, & The Last Stand of Heimdallr) that are randomly awarded during boss attacks that are too weak for me use, thus making them totally useless!!!

    I know I am not the only one who is having to rely on the older Bosses (Mostly the Hel's Rising, Ymir The Storm Giant, & Norns) because we can make them Legedary's & have Weapons & Warriors with some half way decent Attack/Defense stats!

    What good does it do to get to a high level & get new Bosses if you can't use anything you get from them???

    I'm all for new & improved BUT, Elite & Legendary Weapons & Warriors need to be kept!!

    The crafting you did for this last release is fine, but that only covers Adventure Drops.
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2013
  9. JADES

    JADES Well-Known Member

  10. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    I was just talking to Jj about the whole new crafting thing in PC....I hope thats not what u guys are thinking about doing in VC. According to her the items that must be blacksmithed in order to do the adventure are items that she still uses in her inventory while there is a ton of other random boss drops that they dont use in their inventories. How is that a good thing for us? The cost is also higher and the crafted item is not all that much better than the item used to craft it, that doesnt sound like a good deal at all. What it sounds like is a another way to slow us down and it costing US addition coin to do it.


    What we are saying is that the last few bosses u came out with had drops that were already useless for our inventories or soon to be usless for our inventories. These bosses are horrible XP yet we continued to kill them at a huge cost of stam and FP because there was a reasonable expectation that they would be able to be made elite/legendary. Its now pointless to have gathered thousands of these drops. Random drops that are that costly to achieve should be able to be elited/lengendaried or at the very least their numbers should be increased so they will be used in our inventories for a long time to come.


    Im gonna leave it at that until we learn more .....but if its going to be like PC its going to be pretty disappointing to find out we wasted entire refills of stamina and then some on bosses that were absolutely worthless in terms of XP and drops...when all the while that stamina could have been put to much better use
     
  11. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    Yep, I posted the wrong link, sorry folks. :/ Mondays, am I right? I've updated the post with the correct link that several other people posted.

    As for crafting changes, we're just testing the water with Pirate Clan right now (oddly appropriate saying, there). I'll pass along your comments from JJ, pimp, as the developer behind it would be interested to read it.

    Concerning the Elite-Legendary crafting, I'll see if I can put a word in some people's ears about it. I don't think we'll do away with it entirely in the future, but there may be a transition period from Elite-Legendary to the new way. Or not, it's a bit in flux right now. Again, thanks for your feedback!
     
  12. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the reply Mitch.
     
  13. Deblovscats1

    Deblovscats1 Active Member

    Any updates for the Blacksmith yet?
    Do we have any hope for Elite & Legendary items for the drops we get from the Skadi's Blizzard, Heimdallr, Thrym, Jormungandr, Helreginn Returns, Ratatoskr, & The Last Stand of Heimdallr Boss's?


    The Snowcapes from the Skadi's Blizzard, The Healer Clerics from the Heimdallr, The Chopblades from the Thrym, The Snake Eye Gems from the Jormungandr, The Paladin Sage from the Helreginn Returns, The Acorn Sling from the Ratatoskr, & The Bronze Blade from The Last Stand of Heimdallr?

    The last update had nothing to do with any of these Bosses, they were only for items you get from Adventures. Higher levels have absolutely NO way to make ourselves stronger without being able to use these items we get from Bosses & right now I'm sure we ALL have tons of them (I know I do!) and they are totally useless in the original state!

    It is totally unfair if you take away Elite & Legendary upgrades!
     
  14. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    We're working on making more Elite/Legendary crafting options. We talked about it internally and we're working on getting some of those out for you. I'll update the forums when we get closer to release.
     
  15. Deblovscats1

    Deblovscats1 Active Member

    Thank you very much!♥ :)
     
  16. Crisom Melo

    Crisom Melo Member

    Very nice. Hope you can do it.
     
  17. Crisom Melo

    Crisom Melo Member

    Very interesting discussion about craft drops. However, I felt back when you put the drops created by levels.
    For example, I'm only on my level while others at lower levels are becoming stronger than us at higher levels until they reach us. This is unfair, because it was created when we, the five highest levels were already where we are.
    I propose to minimize this injustice and to make the game more interesting, encouraging players to attack more, which drops from battles can also be crafts.
    I'm sure many have thought about it and agree.

    thank you
     
  18. Kel the Merciful King

    Kel the Merciful King Well-Known Member

    I would suggest you be very careful with the moves on the higher level bosses as they could seriously imbalance the game. It was long known that the drops, random, were it. The bosses are largely "exstaminators" with very low XP to stam ratios. So ... tread very carefully please!
     
  19. Susanne Rautelius

    Susanne Rautelius Active Member

    In some way this is unfair that me in level 9423 can beat them who are near 4 k levels more just for that i have the same that they have. I think i shall be more difference between this. Think you need to do more at this things so higher levels have use fore it. I will soon have the same ting that OverKing can do for example. and that wen i in level 10 k. But yes is fun to beat them but is some unfair
     
  20. Deblovscats1

    Deblovscats1 Active Member

    Why wouldn't you have to be a certain level before you could upgrade? That's the way Kano has always done it!

    You have to be at a certain level before you even get the Boss to summon! I don't think they would make the upgrades for everyone, as they have never done it before! I had to reach a certain level before I could upgrade my items to Legendary. I really don't see a problem as long as they follow the same course and if the do there would be no imbalance at all!

    None of us would be able to do the same things a level 22,030 & 21,448 would be able to do as there is only 1 of each on FB.

    The only reason the lower levels are getting stronger is because they are getting the same drops from the newer Bosses as the higher levels get BUT higher levels are not able to upgrade any of them like we have done in the past as we level up!



    Sorry Kel but I have to disagree with you! The game is out of balance NOW! And it will be out of balance until we are able to upgrade our drops accordingly!




    Exactly my point! It is out of balance NOW!!! A level 16902 should be able to upgrade more of the items than you at level 9423! And a level 22030 would be able to upgrade more than a level 16902 & so on!

    As long as the same concept is followed as they have done before, the game should get back INTO balance!
     

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