Battle Win Difference

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Squarenips, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. Squarenips

    Squarenips New Member

    Hi,

    I've tried asking on other armada wars threads in the past, but never had an answer, so thought I'd start a new thread to see if that helps...

    Why is there such a massive difference in attack wins in armada wars? I understand a variation in win amounts and the odd loss, but why on earth can I do 50,000,000 damage with one hit and 400,000 with the next???

    It's frustrating having so little tokens (especially when nearly every kill gets sniped) so how can players be expected to take down an armada from 10,000,000,000 health, doing 400,000 damage at a time?

    -0 Health | 472,752 Damage Dealt | +423 XP | +14 WP (Lost 1 WP)

    -0 Health | 56,238,510 Damage Dealt | +457 XP | +14 WP (Lost 1 WP)

    2 consecutive hits...
     
  2. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    Sorry about that Squarenips, sometimes when there are a lot of comments some tend to get missed. :(

    I'm not sure exactly how the battles are calculated in Armada Wars. I'll ask the developer behind this and see if I can shed some light into how this works. Not sure how exact I'll be able to be without giving away some secrets, but I'll try and see what I can find out.
     
  3. I think that the attack should be a fix number, but it depends on the total armada strength. A very strong armada can have a fix damage dealt 50M, a weak armada can have a fix damage dealt 10M. I think this will be so fair for all, your armada strong you deal more, your armada weak you deal less.
     
  4. Squarenips

    Squarenips New Member

    Thanks mi7ch, much appreciated mate. It just frustrates me doing so little damage and seems like wasted tokens. I don't expect the devs to give away all their secrets, but some insight into why the variation is so extreme would quell my curiosity! :)

    Cheers,
    Tony
     
  5. Squarenips

    Squarenips New Member

    Just received an answer to my ticket...

    Hi Tony,

    Thanks for your question about the Armada Wars beta.

    In these events, the combined strengths of the top 15 players who have joined from an Armada are used to calculate Battle outcomes, with the individual's armed strength being included as a bonus to attacks.

    However there is a "random roll" element as well, which is why damage can vary so widely. For example: if Team A has 10,000 Attack, and Team B has 5,000 Defence, Team A rolls a random number between 0 and 10,000, and team B rolls one between 0 and 5,000 . There's a high probability that Team A will roll higher and win the Battle by a large margin and doing lots of damage. However there is still a chance that TeamB could roll will enough to mitigate more damage, or even win the encounter. This is a rough example, but you get the idea.

    Hope that clears things up! If you have any comments about your Wars experiences you are welcome to share them with us here in Support or in the Feedback forum thread: http://forums.kanoapps.com/showthread.php?10816

    Regards,

    Melanie
    Pirate Clan Support
     
  6. Squarenips

    Squarenips New Member

    -28,513,800 Health | 351,556 Damage Dealt | +91 XP | +11 WP (Lost 1 WP)
    -2,936,961 Health | 290,407 Damage Dealt | +65 XP | +11 WP (Lost 1 WP)
    -12,746,032 Health | 283,896 Damage Dealt | +77 XP | +11 WP (Lost 1 WP
    -63,934,419 Health | 286,439 Damage Dealt | +80 XP | +11 WP (Lost 1 WP)


    This is still happening and I just don't get it. Above are 4 attacks in a row taking massive damage and causing hardly any, against an evenly matched armada...

    It's like that armada is in defensive stance almost, but that's not possible in armada wars. I get how battle wins/losses have a variable, but this happens too often, but I'm not talking about the win or loss, just the huge difference in damage. It's a waste of tokens to do virtually no damage!!!
     
  7. Squarenips

    Squarenips New Member

    -0 Health | 358,927 Damage Dealt | +442 XP | +23 WP (Lost 2 WP)

    ...and then a win but doing almost no damage again...
     
  8. BitterSweet

    BitterSweet Active Member

    I don't understand that either and i try and try to figure out but the % is just so big sometimes is scary , yeah i know can variate but this are ups and down make it a middle at least we know what we fight with , also scary is when you attack an armada you win but the damage you deal is lower then the health you loose ....so i don't get this bizar attacks , even in arena there are more clear then this.
     
  9. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    Its the great equalizer...it keeps stronger armadas from just trouncing on everyone.
     

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