The Official September 2013 Armada Wars Feedback Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by mi7ch, Sep 25, 2013.

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  1. Meredith Bond

    Meredith Bond New Member

    Thank you for the information - I guess I missed out on some of the updates regarding changes to the set up now.
     
  2. razorback

    razorback New Member

    ..you basically lost 100 tokens for game, because no matter what, a person is ONLY gonna get 4 refills a day even if sent by fellow member or refilling yourself...sure if they dont have favor pts. it helps, but overall nobody really got any better help and lost the 100...
     
  3. The Protector

    The Protector Banned

    nitpicking a small little annoyance thats bugged me when i first saw this



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    ARMADA....lol
     
  4. Aintyerwench

    Aintyerwench New Member

    A request for future Armada Wars... There are 4 blank armadas currently playing (nothing shows up where the name should be) and there are 4 armadas that are playing under the exact same name (no variation in the name at all). Both of these situations are not terribly helpful and if not addressed most likely will be played to the extreme and cause serious issues for future Armada Wars... For example, what if no armadas took on any name? Now THAT would be an interesting war to try and fight (fight lists full of BLANK)! And if armadas can play with the same exact name, I can imagine that many armadas will take on this tactic - and again, this might prove interesting (if not ruinous). So, maybe each armada in the War ought to have a name? And it's own, individual name? :D
     
  5. adlib2

    adlib2 New Member

    Still have'nt figured out how to send Tokens?~~HELP~
     
  6. Aintyerwench

    Aintyerwench New Member

    Just a note about the nameless/blank armadas... unlike the armadas with names, there is no way to check the stats of the nameless armadas. You can, for example, click on the names of the other armadas and see how many times you have killed them and been killed by them. There is nothing to click on with the nameless ones so there is no way to check those stats. Again, if this is let stand, I can see all armadas using this option and having a rather chaotic Armada War as a result. :eek:
     
  7. Robert Belrose

    Robert Belrose Active Member

    I wouldn't mind knowing how you expect to give so few tokens and charge 3 dj's for refills and have people keep coming back and playing when the rewards are pitiful? At least in the arena you can get back what you put in if you finish well, it should be the same for this. I used 12 refills and sent out 4, and it's the last time I do that until the rewards are more in line with the arena.
     
  8. Aintyerwench

    Aintyerwench New Member

    I agree with Robert - we gave feedback last time that the rewards were not sufficient for what was being asked. Leveling is not happening here like it does in the Arena, so that is not even a benefit for all of the time and DJs that are being spent. Since the rewards have not changed, and in fact, we only got LESS start up tokens (when we had been asking for MORE tokens) feels like we are not being listened to.

    Also really kind of frustrated with the lack of information from Kano on this. People are having to make a bunch of guesses on how things work - working well sometimes, other times, not so much. A good example is this helping out with refills. First we had to discover how to do it with no help at all, and now people are wondering if what they have helped their armada mates with will count against their allotment of refills the next day. Who knows? We certainly have not been informed! Total guess work at this point. And I think it is a great idea that armada members who have more DJs at their discretion to be able to help out those who don't, but, personally, I want access to the measly 4 refills I get each day, so probably would not give those away if that is the case... wish I knew. :confused:
     
  9. Squarenips

    Squarenips New Member

    I still don't think the amount of tokens is enough and the refills are pitiful and last about 30 seconds. It's so frustrating to spend 80-100 tokens on bringing an armada down, only to have the kill sniped at the last second.

    Also, why does the damage vary so massively? I understand that there has to be a 'random factor' but I do 50,000,000 damage with one hit and 300,000 with the next. Surely that amount of variation isn't right???
     
  10. Squarenips

    Squarenips New Member

    -0 Health | 205,701 Damage Dealt | +361 XP | +23 WP

    -0 Health | 28,647,691 Damage Dealt | +340 XP | +23 WP

    Why such a difference in 2 consecutive hits????? How are you meant to take down an armada of 10,000,000,000 health at hits of 205,000?
     
  11. BitterSweet

    BitterSweet Active Member

    I still don't see any answer about the no names Armada .... in the arena you are not allowed to join like that why now Kano accept it, how would you know who your opponents are unless you see a name. Also the armada with the same name should not be allowed, I know they are like that but that needs to be fixed.
    Also because we use and stamina and tokens in the wars the amount we should refill for 3 DJ should be 100 tokens and not just 50 or you can just make us spend for the 50tokens 1 DJ and not 3. That is abit to much for just 50 . I know Kano wants the feed back and I hope it listen.
     
  12. Dino MakDizdar

    Dino MakDizdar New Member

    I just logged on and had 300 tokens so I start working on one armada then buy 4 refills and in last second get my kill stolen. Makes me wonder if anyone at KANO even bother monitoring armada wars. If you did you would know that some of war points are just not feasible with amount of people (15) and with number of possible tokens.
    This needs to be addressed immediately and if you don't know how I will let you know. Kill war points will be rewarded proportionally to amount of damage done by players. If this is not implemented there is no point in participating in this circus.
     
  13. Aintyerwench

    Aintyerwench New Member

    There has not been a sound heard in here from Kano since 9/27/13 - the day the War started... 3 days of deafening silence, unanswered questions and unaddressed concerns. Is it a wonder that people stopped posting in this thread? (It is only the second time we have had the Armada Wars - there should be a LOT of feedback coming Kano's way so that they can improve and de-bug this new feature!!!) I "hope" they are listening too, but I begin to doubt it.
     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2013
  14. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    In the defense of the developers, they could be in here answering questions, but it's probably more productive of them to start working on the feedback left in this thread. Once they're got a solid handle on how this war went down and what's changing for next time, I'll bug them for an "after-action" report. :)
     
  15. Aintyerwench

    Aintyerwench New Member

    When there is confusion about how to use new features, like gifting tokens, for example, and people have come here repeatedly asking for assistance and there has been no response... that is a problem. Pretty much we were left (again) to figure things out on our own in a brand new part of the game during a running war in which a wrong guess could and probably would cost us and our armada dearly. I think that assuring that people understand how to use the current/new features is probably top of the list on productive uses of the developer's time. Just my opinion, mind you.

    I know that some armadas figured out how to do it. I wonder if others ever did. Of the ones that figured it out, I know that even as of this morning (the last day of the war) there were major questions being asked about the implications of gifting. Why should there be so much confusion? Why was there absolutely NOTHING written about this in the "help" information in Armada Wars?

    Strategy? Sure, let us figure that out for ourselves. That is a part of the game. But we need to have BASIC INFORMATION in order to be able to figure out a decent strategy.

    Sorry for the frustration. Three days of unanswered questions and concerns will do that to you.
     
  16. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    Ah fair enough, I misunderstood your original post.

    I wasn't aware that information regarding the new changes weren't included in the Help document for this round, I'll get that pushed through for the next one.

    Additionally, the blank Faction bug has been fixed, so that won't happen for the next War.
     
  17. Aintyerwench

    Aintyerwench New Member

    Thanks mi7ch. :)

    Just to let you know, nobody (except the Blank Factions/Armadas themselves) knew it was a bug until just now. People have asked here from the start of the Wars (3 days ago). Had we known that it was a bug (for all we knew, it was policy, because Kano has let armadas with identical names play, so why not blank?), we would not have been concerned for future Wars. One word from the developers, that this was a bug that was being worked on for the next war, would have saved much anxiety not to mention mistrust toward the Blank Armadas in question. Really, it was not fair to them.

    That is what I mean about communication from the developers. A simple word here and there would have made such a huge difference. This is a brand new feature. Just the second time it has played. The first time was pretty much total Chaos! We are going to need a bit more information up front when it is just starting up.
     
  18. BitterSweet

    BitterSweet Active Member

    Ok ok we clear that bug up ...but what about armada with the same name? That feature shouldn't be allowed either ...if one day we wake up and choose the same name that will be so much fun...There have to be a way to make a difference ... yes it was abit in A B C but that should be fixed also.
     
  19. Gunny from PC

    Gunny from PC Member

    After completing this last war we are hard pressed to decide if we will do another even though we placed 1st. The favor point cost to refill versus the reward we receive is why we are struggling. Compound this with your removing 100 tokens from the original 300 leaves a sour taste in our mouths and the regen time just isn't enough to cover this valuable loss.

    In order to do well, it's best to have your entire armada on-board, and they will have to utilize all of the refills they are provided. This means that over the course of the, AWars 36 favor points, per member, are required. Times this by 25 (per armada) means a nice payday for, Kano which I don't begrudge if the rewards justify the means.

    1st place in AW =
    10 Favor Points
    50% XP to level
    100x Hourly income

    1st place in BA =
    75 Favor Points
    100% XP to level
    80x Hourly income
    2x XP,
    6x Strength in battle

    So in a nutshell, unless, Kano adjusts the rewards and the cost and amount of tokens per refill, we don't see it as beneficial to participate. Bragging rights however, are priceless :)
     
  20. Gunny from PC

    Gunny from PC Member

    A really wise, Captain in, PC has shed some light as to the favor point rewards we receive equaling 250 if your armada has 25 members. The reward structure certainly sits better when viewed this way...thank you :)

    I still feel that removing 100 tokens doesn't balance out with the regen time. And being that we have to use tokens and stamina, the cost to refill, for the amount of tokens we receive should be adjusted, particularly since we don't gain the XP one does in the BA. Any other thoughts on this?
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2013
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