Thought about Arena

I know many people here will say ´don´t play it if you don´t like it´ or something similar, but I have to say I like to play it and if I have time playing I am do enjoy BA very much and usually end up in top30. However, I realized one thing. It is not really fair game. In last arena (it is still going on with 4 players remaining when I am writing this) I haven’t really time to play, and I only popped in 2 times, stole someone´s hard work (sniped some killes), went defensive and logged out. I finished 23rd. I did about 1300 attacks. During the time I played I saw the guy with 11 kills and over 15,000 attack going down and finishing in about 500th place. Then, when I was already in top 50 I saw people with 0 attacks. Those guys were NOT playing at all and they will finish in top50 (I think there were 1 or 2 with 0 attacks also in top 30 but I am not sure). I think it´s not really fair to someone who spends time (and some UNs probably too) and attacks over 15k times to finish with zero reward and someone who didn’t even click once will grab 4 or 5 UNs, lots of xp and money. It is same for me. I made it to 23rd spot with 1300 attacks. I didn’t buy UNs, I didn´t spend time playing it. My effort was minimal, all I had was just luck that no one attacked me during first 4-5 hours when I was sleeping, luck that I was able to snipe 6 kills (I did kill the 7th guy with my 500 stamina) and clever use of defensive stance. Thats all.
I am not sure if it is even possible to do something with it, because it will always be also about luck, but.. I don´t know, it seems to me a bit unfair. I felt really sorry for that guy with 15k attacks who went down in top 500.. It could be someone of my most hated enemies in the real game, but still.. wasn´t really fair. And next time it can be me who will try hard and will go down really soon despite the effort..
I have to admit however, that I don´t have any suggestion to how to deal with this situation. (Maybe this one: zero reward for the people who didn’t attack at least let´s say 100 times? And moving the people who attacked 100 times but were out to their positions instead?)
Thoughts anyone?

*Your favourite player, Cassovia

 

Been beaten to death I think.

If some play inactively,more power to them.

They're not considered a threat so they get left alone.

If you're active,you have a greater chance of getting killed earlier.

If you stay inactive,you have a better chance of slipping through the cracks till later.


Inactive players are the smart ones.

 

I'm not seeing what the problem is here.
The in actives are open season.
If and when I do play I like to take out the guy that snipes the in active that I've brought down. Maybe the guy with 15k fights is the ass hole who stole from the wrong player, so don't feel sorry for them!
I could have top finishes if I were sad enough to waste my life playing BA.
Maybe it's time to hand out trophies to the winners. The "Billy No Mates" award sounds about right...

P.s. I still think BA has destroyed the main game and should never have had an effect on it, but only in ZS!

 

I would also like to mention that if you choose to be inactive, you sacrifice any levels you might gain in the arena by fighting more... the rewards for placing in the top 100 do not compensate for levels gained if you are active in the arena...

 

mmmm I disagree. If you are an inactive player, you are no threat (you will not attack back). I always go for the inactive players. But that wasnt my point. It seem to me that BA is unfair (sometimes) to the players who are trying hard for no reward. And then there are lucky ones why dont play and got rewarded. I was the lucky one this time, I might be the one who tries and fails next time. Seem unbalanced to me. If you try, you should get at least some reward.

 

when arenas started, I was about level 1800. Now I am level 2000+ and I never gained satisfying xp from them. I get about 100-250xp from fights in arena. If someone has a good defence in a real game, I can get 350+ xp from the fight won. Even if xp doesnt drop in arena like in the normal game, for me its still not enough to make more then 1-2 levels during arena (with using all the boosts, challengers, daily rewards and everything). I guess that if I didnt fight in arena and I used all the stamina from the boosts and daily rewards and so on, the result in means of leveling would be the same. Thats why I am saying the reward from the arena should be balanced better. Cause not everyone profits from the xp gained in arena fights.

p.s. I agree with Alka that arena has destroyed the main game, but if it wasnt there, there would be much less active players in total then it is now, cause arena makes this game a little more fun

p.s.II. Congrats to shaw for winning this arena (btw which one is this? 10th? 15th? I have no idea)

 

You are getting rewards though.

You don't get exp from arena if your inactive..unless your lucky to rank high enough.

 

thats a good point, I didnt think about that before. But as I already said in one of the comments, for me the xp gained in arena is nothing fantastic..

 

Probably cause you haven't been in one long enough.

Get higher and stronger and then maybe you'll live actively in one long enough to see how arena exp is a gamechanger.

 

I don´t know. I ve been 11th, 14th, 17th, in last arena its 23rd. Isn´t that long enough to see this huge ´gamechange´?

 

i dont know....

for me with zero fight list in game, there is no chance whatsover to earn this......

During the Battle Arena you gained 24,053,127 XP!

i save everything i have for arena, i save my uns, i save my faction rewards, i save my world boss rewards, i even stack and store boss rewards, i save my daily boosts and my weekly boosts,.

i save all of this because when i can level in arena i can do 1000 attacks.
when i level in the game i can do ..... wait for it -0- attacks

and i put a significant portion of my skill pts towards stam, so that when i do spend 10 un, i feel like im getting my moneys worth out of it.

without arena, i probably would have quit this game already

 

I completely understand that position Denton. You put a lot of effort in it and you usually do pretty well in arena. And thats my point. Imagine for example, that some of your enemies, or group of enemies (I am pretty sure you have some ) will find out whats your nick in the arena and decide that they want you no matter what. You will spend UNs, all the boosts, will do everything right and you ll finish, let say 300th. With no reward, with nothing and knowing there is still a bunch of players who didnt do anything at all and still slipped to top 30, where they would grab 4 or 5 UNs, xp, money.. I guess it would suck a lot. And that was my point. I dont wanna see players who put a lot of effort to arena and get nothing out of it.

 

the reward is leveling if u ask me, pretty much 1k to 1200 stam levels me n ba everytime, hell i hit the right person and leveled with 870 stam, long story short i do what slave does save everything i can 4 ba...it pays offf...and i most say in normal game 10uns will not level me especially if trying 2 level fast, in ba 10uns level me everytime. i wish we could buy half stam refils for 5uns i wouldnt have to kill myself so much,lol.... anyways just my 2 cent 56 levels i got from ba this time very happy...

 

no streak thats the problem, inactives do get the reward, kano never instituted any kind of change on that.

it is a catch 22, naturally its easier to take out an inactive, its like fighting undead, they dont hit back, they dont hide, they dont go defensive for 2 hours and make you wait them out, but....one person doesnt see every inactive, you only see 12 at a time and some of them are the same over and over and over, so refreshing gets you about a half new list, which may give you inactives and it may not, total crapshoot

i wonder what kano is doing on the 1/2 stam refills or 1/4 stam refills
has to be an alternative to full stam refills, why wouldnt they?? i would utilize that

i really liked eraser's idea of being able to buy a calendar during arena as a substitute for buying refills
they could have a generic calendar, a token reward at the end, but the main reason would be to fill in the holes during arena when your 30,40, 50k short of leveling.

oh and cass, you hit the nail on the head, most people who complain about arena, dont play, dont know how to play, havent made it to the top 15 etc etc etc, but they will complain about it....

they dont realize....the time needed to put in to achieve a top position, how much un it costs, and that they might have to alter their build to accomodate being successful, most people would rather complain than do any of the above

as for my enemies trying to get me i was lucky and had someone leave my faction a couple of arenas ago and leaked mine and some other names from my faction so my enemies could take me out early.....i waited and waited for someone to make a move and alas....nothing...

so if you enjoyed leaking my name thinking it was going to bring misery and discontent, it didnt - just thought you should know
better luck next time

 

exactly. that was my idea - no rewards unless you do 100 attacks. b000m

 

That should be an Idea. Ranking should reflect those who did the work.

 

id just like to say, that person that ranked 500 wth 15k attacks and 11 kills... Most likely did snipe from the wrong person. They where having bad luck all around. Its obvious they tried to take down thier own kills but alas, they kept getting sniped so they went for to snipe one to make up for the health they lost.

The other scenerio is they just got tired of getting thier kills sniped and went after the one that sniped them, thats can be a fatal mistake in itself, esp if you try to do it alone.

Either way, His circumstances are not the norm, He wasnt just "unlucky" he made a mistake too.

As far as inactives ranking in the top 50, This is a product of 2 things, 1st there isnt but about 100 people who even try in arena, and 2nd, Some inactive players get lost somewhere, and never show back up until the end.

Just recently in an arena, My profile said I ranked 21, but when it was over, on the list I was ranked 22 or 23, and ahead of me, I noticed that there was 2 inactive players that never showed up on my list while I was playing.

I refreshed that list 100s of times without ever seeing an inactive player before i decided to take a kneel.

 

I think that Cassovia is a really fair player!
In last arena, the most ranking player without attacks finished 45. Probably this guy have a good defense, bad business for kill; or only is a question of luck
I propose that inactive players appear on the list more frequently. Maybe a scale:
0 attacks = 10x
100 = 5x
1000. = 3x
5000. = 2x
10000 or + = 1x where x = the probability of appearing in the list at random
this is just an idea, I do not know if it is easy to apply

 

Thank you! I think Cassovia is a really fair player too! )
And I agree, this is another good idea. Lets say that after some time (after 100,200,300 players out or after 30minutes, hour of playing..), inactives will simply appear on the list more frequently. However it is true that this might be difficult to apply..

 

When I find an inactive player, I attack him, but If this player has a great defense, I stop or my health down quickily.
Maybe inactive player could be punished by reducing their strengths, X% less each X hours