Battle arena round 5(unofficial)

Thats right Pimp. if we dont win its because you cheated. Anyone using the search other then us should be restricted. LOL, at least it gives us something to do. I LOVE THE BATTLE ARENA top 5 finisher or out in the first hour I LOVE IT, change it or not I LOVE IT.

 

Ty for the kind words.

As far as finding a new strategy I meant between arenas....like u said....once the hounds are your door ....its pretty much done(most cases).

Not to beat a dead horse.... but for someone my level to beat someone of bens level in the arena by myself would be mathematically impossible unless all the star/planetss were to align, the groundhog saw his own shadow and Oj admitted he was guilty....I just dont think it should be left up to chance like that. We all have the same tools and options available to us...whether one player is adverse to a particular tool is on them...the fact remains we all have the same opportunity.

Breakfields idea is to make the search available to only the lower levels....I just dont see this as fair.....per his example....a level 2450 is only 1k-1.5k below me(cant remember my level....lol)...where as im over 6k levels behind Ben....thats a lot of disparity which just isnt fair. he wants a clearcut number that says low , mid or high....that just doesnt work if u have a level thats nearly double the next person, that would be akin to letting a level 100 play in the arena.

Clearly we arent going to see eye to eye on this anytime soon and thats fine as I respect your opinion, your play and I dont think u r being disingenuous like your armada member, we'll just have to find something else to agree on. Sooooo....what color would u say the sky is? lol

 

LOL....your outlook, honesty and humor is refreshing. TY

 

it may be in my space wat you saying is right eric proposed 100 hit before search active , 10 to 20 sec into the game you get your search, then you just type in the names of the ones that going to give up thier health to you , hit them all once so you one thier fight list go into defense mode then they hit you till they give you thier health , that is wat is happening in pirate clan on facebook their are groups that deliberately give up thier heath to a player so they ge thier heath benefit cant relly blame the devs as they do not have actual game experience and i think they are gulable think player wont do these thing well sorry to tell you devs they will and they do , all the search bar is doing is legalizing cheating in the arena , ho can a player seach for someone unless rthey know the name , so devs if you want the search bar fair enough but give everyone a fair chance at finding players not hiding them behind a nick name that only a selcted few will know

 

I already know it would of been the same.
All of us know it would of been the same.
Although I still say Ben was in D mode or the game glitched.
Or maybe you're just a bit stronger than you really think.
Either way,Ben had it enabled one time only.
Too bad I wasn't on cause I know I woulda survived at least long enough to pick up the pieces.

 

i think wrath was right when he said that if you time your kills and make the stamina/health you waste count you can build your health up to near his. i fair decent against those i cant beat in normal game and w/your attack strength you probably win more than i would against him. is it enough? probably not w/some massive health behind you to absorb the losses.

plus he has to make his kills count as well. there is a lot of damage done if you are working on a kill of 145,000 health reward and you lose a good number of health gettin' there before some one swoops and takes it. that happens to me a lot. another reason i don't last long. if i say in d mode then i lose out on levels while my rivals are hovering lol and then when i'm out i get a good 45 minutes to level as much as i can before i get hit again. usually i cant make it my 45 minutes before i can go back in defense mode. so i fare better if i just lay low and do nothing. and that ain't fun neither! lol but i'm determined to conquer it eventually.

and pfttt, everyone knows that the sky is black...derrrr. lol agreed to agree to disagree on the subject.

 

Personally...I think the biggest problems with the arena are 4 things


1. The inactive players, they are by far the majority...if most the players were actually active there would be much more going on in terms fights, lost kills etc etc. It would be much more like an actual arena because chaos would rule the day....players would have less time to sit idle, plot and search as they would be defending themselves and trying to get kills b4 they were gone.


They way it is now due to inactivity is there is not that real sense of urgency....the less powerful accounts are wise to ride things out especially in the beginning because if they show up on ones radar early on they r pretty much doomed. The more powerful accounts tend to be more active as they know they have a target on their backs due to their attractive kill rewards coupled with the fact they pose an actual threat....so what happens is that the most active players usually die off first leaving a massive amount of inactives that must be dealt with to climb the ranks....the further u go....the less attractive the target/rewards (until the very end of course).

2. As much as I like knowing who stole a kill for all the obvious reasons......imo this feature pretty much dooms the more active player once again leaving a sea of inactive players. I can only speak for myself....but when i pump a bunch of stam and health into a target and someone swoops in for the kill.....99 times outta of 100 that active player is going to be the next player eliminated from the arena. Again....the more powerful accounts tend to be the more active and steal the most kills....I use this as a form of identifying these players that pose a valid threat.....once indentified its easy to pass there name along and use the search feature. By eliminating showing who got/stole the kill you keep more active players alive longer because u dont have a name to search. the more active players....the less inactive accounts we have to wade through.

3. The way the battle list refreshes is an absolute joke...Ive commented on it several times and Kano has never said a word. Were supposed to be able to refresh every 30 secs....it does not always, when it does.....it does not refresh the whole list.. at best it will give me a couple new names each time but usually 1 or 2 or none). The thing is supposed to completely random yet I will have a handful of the same names practically from start to finish. the odds of the the same 4 or 5 names coming up in the same order 20 times in a row are astronomically high. Another issue being that when the arena first starts....most if not everybody seems to have the same or very similar fight list, Not only does this contribute to a lot of stolen kills and dead active players but its just not fair to the poor saps that end up on nearly every players list right from the get go.


At one point Kano said they would make the fight list show inactives more so than active players....I honestly dont think this is happening . If it is....perhaps this is the reason the same dang players keep coming up over and over again...if this is why....then it needs to be dialed back to where its way more random. With every arena it in inevitable that myself and the others i play with will all have a handful of players show up on our fight list near the end of the arena that none of us have seen previously in the arena...what r the odds of that? All these players that appear out of nowhere are totally in active and have only been attacked a a handful of times....as if they were on someones battle page right at the start but once refreshed they got lost in some cyber crack not to be seen again until the very end...its very weird .


Perhaps if the battle page refreshed as it should...there would be less need to use search option

4. The rewards.. I understand that the multitude of levels is considered a reward.....but i still dont think players that win an arena should be getting less FP/DJ/UN then they use during the arena. I also understand that this largely depends on how much stamina one has. Personally I have a high amount of stamina and in all the arenas Ive won never ended with more FP than when I started. Honestly...These arenas r pretty damn brutal and to win one is to defiantly have been thru a marathon of a war, 75 Fp for winning is ridiculously low....honestly i someone wins it should be like winning the lottery, at the very least it should be in the hundreds.

The rewards for the top 100 r really bad and I dont think they promote additional activity, if u made it to the top 1oo than youve done pretty damn good and worked your ass off if u were an active player, 1 FP/DJ/UN is pretty much an insult at that point. The rewards pretty much stay the same fore the next 25 rankings...wheres the motivation to claw yourself higher? Going from #100 to #76 is not an easy task....yet u get the same reward? After 10 to 20 hrs of playing,.....that just doesnt seem right....lol. Ide rather just go to bed and see how i fared rather than play a couple more hours on top of the 12 i already played in hopes of 1 more FP/UN/DJ. Personally.....i think increasing the rewards with every ranking would go a long way with motivating players to keep moving forward actively.

Same deal with the damage dealt and XP increases we get when u get to the top 50....these should start at the top 100 for 2 reasons....to reward players for getting to the top 100 and also to speed things up a bit at the end of a very long day

 

1.i kind of like the idle players cos once the defense wears off it's easy levels and health. i think there is a sense of urgency. mainly, "oh crap how long before i'm figured out?" hit hit hit....has it been 45 minutes? how much defense time do i still have? lol but i get what ya mean. it would be fun if more of us were on and playing. I find that to be the same honestly between fb and myspc. you don't know who's on, ya just hit till you find a worthy target or some one finds you. maybe it's just me, but i def. feel that urgency.

2.i absolutely love getting to go after the lurker. it is great that there is at least some kind of retribution for that player who just let me waste a ton of health. i stopped getting upset at the stamina wasted when i shifted my goal from winning to leveling. lol i still get a weeks worth of levels in the arena if i get to stay in long enough. when i level maybe 20 or so a week, this helps my game a lot.

this can also go against the one who got the kill stolen from because 1-they are at a disadvantage for just losing a ton of health 2-usually it's the higher levels that lurk (at least that i've found) so it can become a pissing contest and while you might do a lot of damage to the lurker you also can absorb a lot. I've not had that work out consistently for me yet. lol

3. i dont see how refresh has anything to do w/the need to search. you can save a target and watch it. I dont have any issues w/the refresh feature.

4. since it's free to join the arena i'm fine w/the rewards. i would like to see a split on the health reward for those who get the health down to a sliver and it get stolen. ya, wishful thinkin' i'm sure.

 

Yeah very wishful thinking.

 

Well obviously all the arenas have had the search(no brainer)

You are lucky because of the gang option(search)
Search should be restricted to level 750 up to the MID levels per network for the arena.

Think about it for a moment.
2 level 5Ks
8 level 4Ks(4 against Ben)
Ben is a little over 10K.
Add it up Pimp.
5kx2
4kx4
10k+16k=a monsterous 26K.
See how a high level gang is unstoppable?
This gang equals the equivalent of a level 26K.
26K vs 10K?
26K vs 16K(if you wanna count the other 4 4Ks)
That's a monsterous gang.
Sure you're going to say something like thats not quite right.
If thats a monsterous gang then whats levels 750 to mid level gang per network going to equal?
Well Pimp,fact is the 5k and 4ks all got alot of health and skill points.
Levels 750 to mid levels per network don't got nearly as much.
BTW that's not even including the level 3Ks involved in the gang.
So in all reality that monster 26K is more like 30 or 40K or higher.
Levels 750 and 2450 don't got the skill setup like a 3K and up.
They need the search.
3Ks and higher don't need it(for MS)

Ben CAN be brought down passively without the search.He's not Benzilla.

The search option is bad to allow high levels to use.
Even a small high level gang is still alot of skill points plus the fact those levels already got decent health atk def to begin with.
Plus its 3Ks and higher that USUALLY have the full 2k clan unlike a 750 to 2450(some might but not much which is another reason for search to be restricted to those levels)

Wrong again Pimp.
Ben can be brought down passively.
Mistakes have to happen true.
But to knock anyone out they would have to make a mistake.
If they didn't make a mistake then they wouldn't get knocked out right?LOL.

 

ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SEE WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID PLEASE READ POST#309. LORD BREAKFIELD HAS PURPOSELY EDITED MY STATEMENT IN AN ATTEMPT TO MISLEAD FORUM MEMBERS BECAUSE HIS ARGUMENT/LOGIC HAS NO MERIT OF ITS OWN. i REALIZE ITS A CRAPPY MOVE...BUT THEN AGAIN....CONSIDER THE SOURCE.


Lmao...this is simply your dumbest logic yet. You can toss a load of crap between 2 slices of bread and call it filet mignon all ya want....but at the end of the day its still a crap sandwich.

1. u can add up levels all ya want but it makes no diff or sense, its not as if u can add all their attack together and actually beat ben like an actual level 16k could /would, same thing with defense....Ben would not be able to beat a real level 16k where as 4 individuals 4Ks all still lose when attacking Ben and all still get beat when Ben attacks them. That is simplly the dumbest thing ive ever heard u say.

But just for my amusement...I'll play along, using Your new kind of math and your proposed limit of a 2450k player who is still eligible for the search option. 4x2450= 9800, my level is 3973....thats a diff of 5827, according to you it would be ok for a "gang" 5827 levels ahead of me to be able to search me out and kill me yet its not ok for a "gang" thats only 5806 levels ahead of Ben to do the same? That doesnt exactly seem fair now does it? Not that it matters....your logic and math makes absolute zero sense....but it was fun playing along....lol

A high level gang is unstoppable? They would be just as stoppable as Ben, there are other high level players out there that use the same techniques....I cant help it if some just play smarter than others. According to u a single player 6221 levels below ben could take him down themselves....yet u dont think 4 players can be beat?

Lets do some more math shall we? In MSPC the top 10 players are made up of 5 players from your armada for a total of 28293 levels, the other 5 which arent even all affiliated make up a total of 24256 levels, thats a diff of 4037 levels in favor of your armada. Still dont think a high level group cant be beat? Lets do some more math shall we? Of the 5 members of your armada in top 10...All have admitted they have used the search option and have worked together in some fashion while in the arena....so thats still a total of 28292 levels. Of the other 5 in the top 10...2 have never taken part in ant team effort (one has never entered the arena), bringing that total down to 14494 levels...a diff of 16799 levels. but in fairness....i will toss is 2 player of a much lower level that were involved in some way but not at the same time and that brings my total back up to 22046 levels for a total diff of....6247 levels in favor of your armada. So the fact is......you and yours have distinct advantage and still have lost....so yes....A high level "gang" can and has been stopped.

your whole argument about the number of skill points diff between the different levels is bogus....of course a level 3k is going to have more skill points than a level 750, just like a level 10k is going to have a lot more than a 4k. Lets also not forget about the advantage perks provide and what they are based on. Perks are derived from ones overall skill point allocation....high level players usually have much more allocated to stamina in terms of overall percentage because of the XP needed to level increases signifigantly at the higher levels. The more one has allocated to stamina (which is not a perk category).....the more it takes away from every perk category. so those low levels u speak of are for the most part sitting fatter in the perk department.

Clan size is completely irrelevant....thats up to the player....if they dont have full clan thats on them.


The outcome of an arena may result from a mistake or luck but it definitely should not depend on a mistake or luck and no its not true that to get knocked out means u made a mistake. Any higher level can plow through a lower level whether their in Defensive stance or not....wheres the mistake on the lower levels part?

 

well i guess you can listen to all that pimp if one wants to...i think he has done the math good and add the 3k players in there to...even you have said befor you use the search... welll with that and skype it sure works out real good for ya to gang up on one player...oh yea lets dont forget i can only hit 1 player at a time...

now you have to say it is gang war ...it is unfair for high levelers to use search...it should only be for the lower levelers only to give them any chance...in the range of 750 level to 2450 level to use...

like i said befor in how some one builds there app is what there stuck with...that is some thing we all deal with in battle arena or in regular game play...so try doing the math on it ...

 

Yep,you can read what you said by clicking the arrows in the quote box.

 

To be blunt Ben....i cant help it if u cant play the game well....but the game shouldnt be changed to help you just because you dont play well, not trying to be rude....its just the facts. Im in a similar situation to you in VC and have no problem and im dealing with teams much closer to me in level than I am to you...In some cases Im dealing with teams that have a much higher rated player, so wth is your problem? Even in PC I have been teamed up on by you and members of your armada....you dont see me crying about it do you? Youve been beat twice because you were outplayed in two completely different ways and players....get over it, your just not as good as you think Ben, all your levels must be nice but obviously it dont mean to much if you lack sound strategy, leadership, support and most of all....determination and heart.

 

The first time its caused names leaked.
Whether you particularly had them or not,you're gang friends did.

The 2nd time Ben stopped because he wasn't up to it.
Plain and simple.

You didn't really win either one.
The first time was literally 1 after the other.
Not possible.

2nd time it wasn't as sudden as rd 3 was but you didn't really win since Ben wasn't up to playing that one.
So the end result mighta said you won those rds,but in all reality nope you sure didn't.

 

is that your best shot ...is that the best you can do...do you see me crying i dont think so... why are you yrying to change the subject for..

 

yep....youve been crying since the first time u lost.....sad really. Before that u were rarely in the forums. your just some guy who spent a bunch of money on a bad ass account but doesnt have the smarts to make it work. Sorry if your butt hurt....but no worries...i dont plan on competing in the next arena....so you might actually have a chance...all better now? tissue? hug?

 

thats what you have said you...only you...

now can we stck with the matter in hand here about the search to be only for lower levelers...

or are you going to keep going off base about it pimp...

 

Please delete the quote.

Pimp is calling names.

 

Search really should be restricted to levels 750 up to the mid levels PER network(myspace that averages to 2450 maybe 2500)
FB I can't even begin to wager a guess but maybe up to 4k there or even 5k since the levels are higher there.

MS the levels are lower and levels 2450 maybe 2500 seems fair as mid levels.

Search was meant to give LOW levels a chance NOT the high levels.