Process Improvement at KANO/APPS and YOU

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  1. ViPCEO

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    Post is off topic

    can I ask, how do scripts and bots tie into alt. accounts? one has nothing to do with the other, for the record I agree scripts and bots are cheating, but how many players really use these things, FYI Kano has already implemented a response mechanism system for the auto clicks. Every time i go bounty hunting and relentlessly refresh the bounty list by pressing the bounty button, i always get a window that pops up with a simple math problem and a blank open box for the answer (1+1=_) once you put your answer in and click the confirm it returns you back to the game. This confirms a real life person is sitting at the control of the CPU, a bot cannot answer that and would be knocked offline. But again, the post was about alt, accounts not bots and scripts so how do they tie together?
     
  2. Linda

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    These terms can be found here: http://www.kanoapps.com/terms-of-use/

    If you have any additional questions or issues, please don't hesitate to contact us again.
     
  3. Linda

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    cheating is cheating, whether it is bots , scripts, auto heal,or alts makes no difference at the end of the day, so whatever can be done will be great to stop anyone who may be doing any of it, I am behind it:)
     
  4. madalina

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    i've reade the terms of use and i don;t see what i did wrong...nothing...no alts..no swearing...no nothing..and i'm banned...i see that all restrictions are to ex hi5 players..fb players are beeing banned?...no they are not..first you give us a lame package then u limit our HG..then out friends and now you bann us?...lol...
     
  5. madalina

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    i agree..cheating is cheating..but i don;t cheat..i don;t want to cheat..i just want to play that's all
     
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  6. Linda

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  7. madalina

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    i wrote them for the second time..i hope they will do something about this because i play those games for over 3 years...and i like them
     
  8. Linda

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    just be alittle patient I am sure they are being messaged by anyone having the same issue, and knowing the time difference where I am they are prob not even at work yet, but they will get back to you.
     
  9. ViPCEO

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    Whats the advantage?

    Deltan, as a daily player, can I ask how is that an edge? even if someone had alt. accounts and i dont care if they had 100 alt. accounts, can someone explain how thats an edge? as i have been advancing there are less and less players to battle, its the same players i attack and get attacked from on a daily basis, judging from the Groups i belong to the same goes for the upper levels as well. From a pure gamer perspective, i would welcome MORE accounts, MORE people to bounty, attack, whip, kill, to help, assist or the more they have to help others=more happy gamers, the more the better, the more they have to recruit=more fresh meat has to come in from it. Now from a business standpoint if someone has multiple accounts Kano increases its income potential. Because Any Maniac that has the time to run multiple accounts, is obsessed and is definitely spending loot to keep his accounts strong, not to mention the sponsors, the more active accounts the more monies for you guys. I love how all the moderators and the daisy chain of punch drinking followers jump on the train without questioning an announcement that just said it will take players out of play
    In Zynga MW n VW there was an edge because all accounts received strong weapons from daily drops, promo gifts, purchases made with compiled free credits, the cheat was ALL ITEMS could be gifted back into one account making one player 10x stronger 10x faster, but that window is so small, eventually all those items become obsolete, and aren't used as you move up in levels and eventually it all evens out in the end, its all relevant. In Kano games there is no gifting of drops, purchased items or promo gifts Whatsoever But again, I am open minded and want to know, How is this an edge? who can give me 3 examples like i gave for the Zynga cheat and make me eat my hat? LMAO
     
  10. Linda

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    Really??? One account per player for each game, end of debate







    glad you don't own , run or operate Kano """ . I love how all the moderators and the daisy chain of punch drinking followers jump on the train without questioning an announcement that just said it will take players out of play""" really??
     
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  11. ViPCEO

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    Yes LadyPaula you are 100% right with Zynga, but there is nothing an Alt. account can do, neither to affect your game, ZERO. nor can it give anyone an unfair advantage.
     
  12. Linda

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    One account for each person for each game, what do you not understand ?
     
  13. Fact: Owning more than one account is against the rules.
    Fact: Sharing your account with another person is against the rules.

    Now Alternate accounts can give anyone a serious edge within the game in a number of different ways, just take the examples below to give you an idea of how they can give you an edge.

    1. Multiple accounts can be set up to help one or a number of accounts level, once one account hits the 5,000 attack limit, they can move onto the next account and continue to level it, if you have enough accounts you can essentially loop level everyday, and can go 10x the normal amount of levels for example if someone has access to that many accounts.

    2. Stat padding, Multiple accounts can be created to help one or more users stat pad, whereby the stats on one or a number of accounts can be increased/improved by fighting, punching/killing etc. Again if you have enough accounts, you can essentially get leader board positions.

    3. Abuse more than one account can be used to abuse a person or people within the game, listing with one account and catching with another is an example, or punching with simultaneous accounts to achieve a punch kill.

    4. Abuse of the GP system, multiple accounts can be set up to abuse the Daily Gamer Points system, allowing a syndicate/guild/armada to win and gain a leader board position.

    Yes, Kano can make money from more people having more than one account, but when these accounts abuse the rules and other people then that is a worse issue. Kano care about their users at the end of the day, and whilst I may not always agree with them I still know they do a lot of hard work.

    Now I'm going to make this clear to everyone, Owning more than one account, abusing people with it, cheating and gaining an unfair advantage with it will more than likely get you banned.

    Now as always, if you suspect someone of owning multiple accounts, or suspect someone of cheating please take the time to write into support, so this can be investigated.
     
  14. ViPCEO

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    You still never answered how is it cheating? i will wait for us to go back and forth before you decide to actually answer the question I posed
     
  15. ViPCEO

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    You still did not answer my question

    No its not the end of the debate because you failed to answer the question, if you answered the question then it would be the end of the debate.
    oh my sweet Linda, its your way or the highway I see, I'm not like Alec who goes against Reason and common sense to say things just for the sake of stirring up the pot.
    I love how you always take things out of context. You pick something that has nothing to do with the subject of the post or reply and make an issue out of it and become fixated on it. Same with the button issue, its fixed and it didn't take a confirmation button added to fix the problem Right?
    So how does it give an edge? answer please
     
  16. Linda

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    haha what Dylan said now i got stuff to do see ya and if ya do have an alt Vipceo, i suggest you stop using it, if not than ya got nothing to be concerned about, see ya
     
  17. Allen Sumaran

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    I applaud KANO for taking a stand on ALTS!! This is my one and only account and I am 110% against them. I know that I probably have several alts in my clan, but if I suspect an account as being an alt...I.E. joined 999 days ago and is a level 300, then I don't admit them in my clan. I sincerely hope that this can be accomplished by KANO. It will make the game more enjoyable for everyone!!


    Allen Sumaran
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  18. Linda

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    actually you seem stuck on the word " edge" i missed deltan using that word, but ces't la vie
     
  19. ViPCEO

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    Dylan I am not arguing the facts, against policy and rules? Yes, but cheating? no, I have a hard enough time keeping up with one account, god only knows the amount of time I put into playing PC n VC, how someone can duplicate that on a grander scale is beyond me, godbless them. But in response to your numerated list i shall address each in order

    1. You used 5,000 attack as your start point, we all know what goes into getting an account to 5k attack, and having that in 1 account does not benefit the leveling of a weaker 2nd account, if that was the case if your theory was correct, you could pick a lower member in your guild and make them a superstar because you hold 5k in attack. that scenario doesn't cut the mustard.

    2. This would require logging into one account battling then logging out and back into the other, that back n forth would make me want to shoot myself, but anyway again, this does hold some weight, but this is the same thing as having a battle buddy, or de-clan someone to smash both of you onto the leader boards, so what your saying is battle buddies is technically cheating? this passes the acid test, here is one example of cheating, good job

    3. This hold no weight whatsoever, I'm an avid bounty hunter and to list with one and catch with the other, nearly an impossible task. So technically pack bounty hunting is an unfair advantage, when a guild uses its chat window to time a bounty drop and one member of the pack posts and the other collects, the same money is always in play within the group and continues until someone outside the group cleans them out. I bounty people and there are times, the split second I bounty the kill is already posted before i can blink. So this scenario is a wash. And as for abusing people, heck you can do that just fine with one account, there are plenty of bullies in these games, even guilds full of them so thats a wash.

    4. this is a great point, for those who have the time to play with themselves yes this can be an issue, but from my past experience, when i fist started playing in a guild, there was a player (Nameless) that was leaving the game and offered the account to one of the other members, how they did it idk, but yes it was done. It lasted 2 seasons, at the end of the 2 weeks it was no longer fun and the guy couldn't do it anymore and the player gave the abandoned account back to his friend until his return and was deleted from the guild. PS the guild position rank stayed the same, the same half point or miss a day here or there pikers stayed consistent. Another guild member I had left the guild to start his own with the same thing you just said, the guild had 3 ppl, I know 2 where definitely his accounts not sure on the 3rd, and thats all it ever got, now all 3 accounts are dead and the guilds finished, so the game went from being fun to a job that didnt pay very well so he quit LMAO, But a fanatic could probably make this one work too, Valid Point.

    RE: Kano; the more money they make the better our gaming experience will get, its the cold hard facts of business. Sad part the ones dropping the bucks into the game are probably the fanatics that have alt accounts LOL. take away alt. account and you will still have bullies, guild full of em and more on the way, you still have level or battle buddies.
    But a serious edge I don't think you proved that, but I really appreciate this staying on topic, NICE WORK!
     
  20. The Protector

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    I bolded your first reply because you misunderstood.The 5k isn't personal attack.It's that you can attack another player a maximum of 5k times in a 22hr window.
    Far as the 3rd point,it's rather easy to run multiple accounts at the same time(think about it)So that one does hold weight.Only thing you have to remember is which account is which.
     
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