Stuck in Asgard Empire

Can anyone advise me of how to get out of the Asgard Empire? I've been stuck here for more than a week and it's a real pain because you have to be at Level 1800 to buy anything here. I'm only at 1758 so my money keeps accruing in my account and I'm becoming a target for the higher level players who want quick cash. (I'm also stuck in the Asgard Adventure Level and can't go back to do different adventures.) Help please!

 

buy more buildings from the other realms. i have 500 of each for example .

 

high high up buildings are a waste of your coin if you buy to many

perhaps 10 of them(although even that is alot for some of the higher realms)

i would focus on buildings up to muspell(regular not god trials)

anything past that and your pretty much wasting coin if you buy to many of them

 

maybe, but like Anne-Marie said, what else can you do with the xtra money? And there's that achievement for income, the last one beng for 1 trillion. The only to get that is to buy a lot of properties, probably more than 500.

 

Just for statistic's sake I'll give you my MS Empire Income up to Asgard according to locations. Note, these are not the achieved numbers, merely the calculated ones:
North Midgard: 1.236.733.000 - 100%
South Midgard: 1.693.860.000 - 100%
Aegir's Sea: 1.912.900.000 - 100%
Aegir's Passage: 7.074.100.000 - 100%
Vanaheim: 18.097.800.000 - 100%
Nifelheim: 25.155.000.000 - 100%
Jotunheim: 38.984.000.000 - 100%
Alfheim: 55.435.000.000 - 100%
Nidavellir: 117.090.000.000 - 100%
Muspell: 205.140.000.000 - 60%
Helheim: 52.700.000.000 - 40%
Vingolf: 68.200.000.000 - 45%
Asgard: 83.600.000.000 - 45%

As you can see, most of my profit comes from lower Empires, when the final numbers for my current building plan are achieved, around 60% of my Empire Income will come from the lands up to Muspell. I even gave percentages, to show how far along I'm with getting my Empire to where I want it.

Each building is calculated to have a return ratio above 10.000 rounds of generating income. 15.000 or 20.000 rounds will be the next step.

Your best bet is to calculate your Empire, I made an entire Excel sheet for it, but it's rather big and I don't really want to share it. If all else fails, find a friend that is good at accounting and let them calculate the numbers for you.

 

My two cents (or current 445 billion coin profit, if you prefer)...

I have purchased enough of every empire building (up through Asgard plus the first one of Midgard GT) to make it so I have a 12500/1 cost/income ratio (or slightly more) or 12500 "rounds of generating income" to use someone else's phrase. I picked 12500 as a stopping point because, if you have one of the characters which gets income every 42 minutes, there are 12514 of those periods in a single 365-day year. In other words, if I buy a new building today on any of my currently unlocked worlds, it will take at least a year before it begins generating any net profit. Of course, it is pure profit from that point forward

The two Asgard empire buildings only required 280 and 270 to reach that 12500/1 threshold. The first one in Midgard GT only took 220. Each of the buildings in Muspell needed 650 or more. So the buildings (generally speaking) get less and less cost-efficient as you move up the ladder. The main point is this: picking a number like 500 and saying "I'm building 500 of every one" is not very cost-efficient as you'll get much better value in the lower worlds.

 

Just for reference (for each world that I've been to), here are the lowest and highest of the number needed to get to a 12500/1 ratio (or slightly higher in some cases because I always buy in increments of 10).

N. Midgard: 870 (seaside castle) to 2840 (blacksmith shop and pub)
S. Midgard: 900 (sawmill) to 1240 (inn)
Aegir's Sea: 910 (fortress) to 1240 (three different ones)
A's Passage: 980 (the last two) to 1080 (dry dock)
Vanaheim: all are 990, except the etin market (1010)
Nilfheim: all are 980 or 990
Jotunheim: two at 950, two at 960, one at 970
Alfheim: 900 (elf dwelling) to 950 (elf armory)
Nidavellir: 740 (dwarf mine) to 810 (dwarf blacksmith)
Muspell: 650 (fire fortress) to 700 (fire gate)
Helheim: 310 and 290
Vingolf: 290 and 280
Asgard: 280 and 270
Midgard GT: 220 and ???

I'm on the Facebook version, if that makes any difference...

 

Actually, the Empire Values are equal everywhere.

Furthermore do you have a mistake in your calculation scheme, as I have built every building you mention in larger quantities and have lower return ratios.

You need to calculate the invested coins, divide them by the generated income of all buildings of one type and then you have the real return ratio. I built over 5000 Pubs to reach the return ratio of 10.000 turns.

 

I guess that I wasn't clear in my first post. I want to toggle back a page to the Empire before Asgard but I can't. The button that normally appears that lets you move backwards or forwards isn't appearing on my page anywhere. I'm stuck in Asgard even though I can't buy anything here. ('Cause I'm only in the 1700s and you have to be at least Level 1800 to buy anything in Asgard.)

I think that this is a technical glitch. I want to spend my accumulating monies on land but can't get to another Empire in order to do that.

Has anyone else encountered this/ know how to fix it?

 

you cant travel to a new location??

 

Thank you Eric for the explanation. Could you post all of the numbers here to try them myself? (or give me a PM). Das liebe beil, maybe that's because you're a Pathfinder?
Anne-marie, try travelling to Vingolf. Then click Advenures and Empire. That should send you there. There was this bug a little while back but is was said it had been resolved. If you still can't go to your empire, send a ticket to Support.

 

Maler, Character class has nothing to do with return rounds for Empire. It merely has something to do with the length of the rounds. And my character class is Skald, meaning that I have income every 42 minutes. 10.000 x 42 min = 7.000 hours or about 292 days.

As I said, the return ratio is calculated by the invested coins in a building type, divided by the amount of coins generated by all buildings.

My current buiulding Plan costs about 8 Quadrillion to complete.

And as for buying lower Empire? Travel to North Midgard and go on the Empire Tab when you have this location. It should bring you to the North Midgard Empire. There is unfortunately no "Travel Back" button in Empire, you can only travel to the next location.

 

My ratio is calculated using the amount of time periods needed to make the next building you buy pay for itself.

Example: I just picked one at random... Etin Market from Vanaheim. I own 1010 of them, each generates 650K per period. The next one I buy will also generate 650K per period but will cost me 8.16 billion coins. 8.16 billion divided by 650K is 12553.8. It will take THAT building nearly 12554 time periods to pay for itself (over a year).

Maybe it's different on MySpace, but on FB the values for the buildings are definitely NOT the same on every level

 

if what you're saying it's true, the Devs have a lot of explaining to do.

 

That's right.

I'm stuck there. No way to go back. And it's been forever!

 

The prices are equal in MS/hi5/fb VC. 1010 Etin Markets cost exact the same on hi5 as well as on MS and fb.

I personally look at the total invested coins, not what a single building will cost.

You have 1000 Etin Markets, invested about 7T in them (I might be horribly off there, too lazy to look up the exact value right now). This means, these 1000 Etin Markets will generate 650 Million Coins. 7.000.000 Million / 650 Million = around 10700. These are not exact numbers, but they show how I calculate.

With your current calculation not even going up to Asgard GT will bring you anywhere near 1T income.

My plan heralds around 800B upon completing, and that's without Nidavellir GT, Muspell GT, Helheim GT, Vingolf GT and Asgard GT even appearing in the calculation.

 

send a message into support(link is in my sig)

send in your profile link and it should get straightened out

 

I know I won't get high enough using my 12500/1 ratio as a stopping point. I am working on getting all the hoarding achievements, then I'll go back and build some more until I get to 15000, 20000 or more (using my method).

Although we calculate ratios differently, would you still agree that the lower world's buildings (generally speaking) are better values than the higher world's? Put another way, if you were to inherit my character tomorrow (knowing what you know about my buildings from my earlier post), where would you spend your/my money first?

 

I'd spend it on lower buildings first, as you can generally speaking get more money out of them. Helheim and beyond, the Empire get's extremely expensive very quick.

 

in the end, whose numbers are right? because i don't want to waste my money, now that i know that having 500 of each building is NOT cost-efficient.