ONE of the two items comes from something you can get at level 420. I have been told it is the Frost Giant...or the Elder Frost Giant. Makes sense, you use a "Giant" warrior to get a "Giant" warrior. Two unique items: Kano Shield and Trickster's Blade Two non-unique items: Kano Shield and Kano Shield
The rock giant comes after level 420, the unlock level for the under giant, so it couldn't be part of the puzzle.
Has anyone tried the Sword of Ice (Odins Challenge reward)...with the Frost Giant.... also...All Blacksmith items that are warriors require a minium of two warriors....so....if there is only two unique items used...... I'm thinking it is two unique warriors..... Just a theory...
I have tried the sword of ice, if you look above there is a very long list of everything i have tried to combine with the frost giant, elder frost giant and battle etin. It did however occur to me last night that i have not yet done the aegirs passage odins rune challenges, maybe something from them is part of the answer
How do you figure that? There aren't that many warriors open for a level 420 player, ONE of which comes at level 420. As Seth already said, he has tried essentially EVERYTHING with Elder Frost Giant and Frost Giant. DarkStratus, the Kano Secret Ninja, said that the Under Giant requires 2 unique items to craft. We know from the Blacksmith listing that the most recent of the items is open AT LEVEL 420. What We Can Infer: I trust what our Secret Ninja told us. So we know there are two different items used. Blacksmith says it can be done by a level 420 at the earliest. This means if the higher item is an adventure drop, it comes from the middle of Niflheim. Either the Frost Giant or the Elder Frost Giant is that drop. Furthermore, a Warrior Recipe suggests it uses a Warrior. This makes sense. The user "seth the chef" has compiled a long list of items he tried with both of the Frost Giants. Again, we assume he is telling the truth (in this case because he would want to craft it as well) and we can know that the second item is very likely NOT a Warrior. Ky76, I have seen nothing that proves all Warrior Recipes need at least 2 Warriors. Nor have I seen anything suggesting that both items here are Warriors. Seth, are there any items that you did NOT get a chance to test? I've done the Aegir's Passage Rune Challenge but only the first Niflheim Rune Challenge, so I have Aegir's Longship but not the Elder Frost Giant. Could it be the "Billow Maiden," another Aegir's Passage drop? Frost Giant + Yeti Ice Sword Frost Giant + Aegir's Longship I'm trying to think what else I can test with the Frost Giant. Secret Ninja, could you tell us if gifts are used? If none are, could we know whether they are Warriors or Weapons?
I have all the niflheim challenge drops, but none from aegirs passage. There are also several gifts i don't have, which i've been requesting and trying as i obtain them. I haven't had much time the last 2 nights to try new combos but probably will this weekend while all the kids are gone. So hopefully we will get the thing figured out within the next few days
Aegir's Passage Challenge had the Aegir's Longship (which I got and tested with the Frost Giant), a Warrior that I do not remember, and another item of type unknown. D'you know WHICH gifts you haven't tested? I think I have them all and can test with the Frost Giant...leaving the Elder Frost Giant for you (since I have neglected to get it) I'm in the middle of Vingolf's Challenge and I'll do the remaining Aegir's Passage ones after that. You know...I think the third item was a Warrior.
I don't have the viking tunic, long bow, wooden shield, poison arrows, battle chainmail, trained hawk, rabbit shield, wooden rabbit amulet and leather armbands
Right then. Testing those gifts with the Frost Giant now. Will edit this post when I find something out. EDIT: if the recipe is correct, but I lack the funds or enough of the item, it will say so (this happened with the Hellfire Chariot...I made a screen capture to prove it) Longbow - nothing Leather Armbands - nothing Wooden Rabbit Amulet - nothing Rabbit Shield - nothing Wooden Shield - nothing Poison Arrows - nothing Viking Tunic - nothing Battle Chainmail - nothing Trained Hawk - nothing I could clan with you and send you any you need. http://apps.facebook.com/vikingclan/profile/user/715989330
number of items like with the hellfire chariot, you realize the under giant could take a ridiculous number of each of the ingredients? I don't know exactly what kind of "hint" has been given but if it only says "two unique items", that doesn't necessarily mean anything (whishful thinking aside) regarding the number of copies of each... Or would the recipe be unlocked still if one tries with the right combination but insufficient numbers?
I answered this in my edited post before I saw your question. No, the recipe is NOT unlocked BUT the Blacksmith tells you the recipe failed because you did not have enough of them. That way you know you have the right combination, and now how many you need versus how many you have. I've attached proof of this happening when I discovered the Hellfire Chariot recipe.
Hey everybody. I think we are all overlooking an important part of the clue the ninjas gave us. He said "two unique item types" not just unique items. I just re-read all of the posts here. This could possibly mean that we need both giants and a weapon maybe... just tossing out possibilities. Hope it helps. I don't have enough of the ingredients to try much yet.
I had asked whether the "unique" was for items or for item types. Urgh, too confusing. And VC only has two item types anyways. Pirate Clan has 3: Matey, Weapon, Ship. All the gifts are Weapons for BOTH of those Clan games. So either that was an unhelpful hint, or we only use two different items (quantity unknown) to make the Under Giant. Anyways, the level 420 requirement indicates either the Frost Giant or the Elder Frost Giant, ONE of which is unlocked in Niflheim at level 420. I don't think we know any more than that...and unfortunately I STILL don't have the Elder Frost Giant. Some hidden recipes use a previous crafted item...is that the case here? Perhaps the second item type (assuming the first is one of the Frost Giants) is the Ice Dart. The only problem is...Ice Dart uses two items from the Niflheim Rune Challenge. Since the Ice Dart is unlocked BEFORE the Under Giant, then the Niflheim Rune Challenge is BEFORE a player reaches level 420. So the level 420 item almost HAS to be the Frost Giant. If so, then anything from before the Frost Giant is fair game, and anything afterward is off-limits.
So, I get the impression that it is the Frost Giant with some other item. Quotes from our beloved Ninja (on page 2 and 3): Here is all the lists of items that failed to react with the Frost Giant (some tested by me, but most from helpful others) alphabetized: advent wreath aegir guard aegir staff aegir war ship aegirs amulet aegirs armor aegirs hammer aegirs longship aegirs trident aesir statue battle ax battle etin battle swine blessed oil blood decoy byggvir ale celtic gorget chainmail armor champion ax champion knives cyclops smash club cyclops war helm death dealer deluxe spears drakkar figurehead elder frost giant fafnir dragon helm fenrir fishing drakkar fishing spears forearm armor forged helm freyjas armor freyjas follower freyjas sword giant squid golden apple of youth great fishing net hero hiking boots hugin and mugin ice dart ice shard catapult iwaz rune jormungander kite shield lands end sentinel leather helm lobster breast plate lobster guantlet lobster hook whip long range catapult lump of coal mead horn mini melee ax mini throwing axes minotaur flail minotaur hoof club minotaur war bow morning star njord hook njord ship njord warlord norse prince north star charm northern knot charm obsidian dagger odins mask pack horse pillagers ax pillagers helm pillagers tunic rock giant hammer rock tunic ruffian blade ruffian helm ruffian tunic rune chiseled ax sacred well scroll of vanir knowledge serpent claw blade serpent skin armor sheild of ice silver armband silver ornament skidbldnir skull dagger svalinn sun shield sword of ice tentacle whip thors amulet thunderstroke mace torch training sword twin minotaur axes undersea armor undersea chariot undersea helm underworld ring venom dart viking costume viking dagger viking longship viking war helm war boots war elephant warrior princess wolfskin cloak yeti ice helm yeti ice mace yeti ice sword zombie bat zombie drakkar zombie hunting hawk
I have just tested the Frost Giant with previous Blacksmith items. However, I do not have the Ice Dart. Would some kind person test it and post their result, please?
Elder Frost Giant does not work. There are two items, according to the Ninja. ONE of those is unlocked at level 420. This is the Frost Giant. The Frost Giant will then not make anything with the Elder Giant AND the Ice Dart. Looking at my list above, does anyone see an item missing? It can NOT be obtained after the Frost Giant as the Under Giant can be crafted by a player at level 420.
under giant? I have been working in the blacksmith trying to find the recipe for under giant, but I have not had any luck. Has anyone else found it yet?