PC and cage matching

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by Kirsten, Mar 26, 2015.

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  1. Old Salt

    Old Salt Well-Known Member

    Yep, I've been thinking that ever since he shot his mouth off and spammed world chat in PC this morning.;)

    And his argument hasn't changed and his posts are growing more than tiresome. They desperately want to hold on to something they should have been able to play without a long time ago. Time for the kids to finally let go of mommy's hand and learn to walk on their own. Time for KANO to lock out this feature for those who have captured all of its achievements. :)
     
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  2. greatM

    greatM Active Member

    Im far from a cry baby ;)
    I have never and would never use cagematch in that way, for one it give low xp per stam. The only thing I use cagematch for is to adjust target health for the kill shot. Or to get the cagematch count in when I was close to an achievement.

    I'm not posting here being a cry baby, because some players can attack me maximum 50 times a day cagematch, trying to get cagematch removed from the game.
    A feature of the game that others can and have tried to use against me.

    For me the more player that try to kill me, the more fun I can have, as I have more targets on my fight list.

    How sad, that you think I have come here for any other reason, than to give my own person view on a fighting option, that allows others to at least stand a bit of a chance fighting me.

    I would not have thought of suggesting anyone put you up to posting here, rather than you speaking your own mind, but I guess that says more about you that it does about me.
     
  3. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member

    Yes it would be fun to have them on my rival list ,if they did not hit and hide, but sadly they do, some even attack up, out of their range, but as I have said once they are done caging players they are gone till the next day, so having them on my rival list is just taking up a space,worthless . They are not caging for a kill , they are not caging for an achievement, they got those achievements a long time ago, I am not talking about players playing 500 days,like you, or some low level newbie,They are caging cause they added everything to attack, no health no defense, and no bosses,crafting adventure drops,their inventory is sometimes filled with memorial gifts , it is a joke, and we are not talking about any server than FB where there are a lot of players,so not "deadspace" or the sleeper Kong/armor platforms,we are talking about FB.
     
  4. Old Salt

    Old Salt Well-Known Member

    The only thing sad here is someone trying to convince the devs to keep cagematching around for higher levels that should have no need of it. The higher level players in the other games, weak or not, get along just fine without cagematching. Time for PC to follow suit.
     
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  5. Old Salt

    Old Salt Well-Known Member

    Cagematching was only meant for those beginner pirates who didn't have full clan yet or matey's, ships or weapons built up. Let's keep it for those pirates because by the time they get all the achievements they won't have need of it anymore.
     
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  6. greatM

    greatM Active Member

    Spamming chat how do you figure that one out, when all I have done is reply to posts direct at me and now about me.
    I'm Not the one posting two separate post in a row aimed an no one in particular.

    Another one that thinks players post for others rather than thinking for them selves, seem to be a bit of a theme here; players that cant handle being attacked max 50 times a day in a fight game, seem to think others can't think for them selves.

    With the same players that want it removed saying things like.
    Kirsten said: "There us no harassment or bullying in a fighting game that excuse falls flat"
    Old Salt said: "if you leveled yourself too fast that is your problem."

    Seem more that you desperately want to get rid of a legitimate fight option that you cant handle.

    While you think that its fine for you to use the set-up you have, to attack weaker player far more and say "it is their problem."

    It seems like double standards to me.

    And there you go, as you guys are saying it is being used by "pirates who didn't have full clan yet or matey's, ships or weapons built up."
    So it is being used by the players it was intended for.


    As far as what Kano do with it in FB it makes no difference to me.

    I only joined this thread as the title is "PC and cagematch" not FB PC and cagemtach.

    In aromor/kong PC, I would rather there was more options for weaker player to be able to fight me not less.

    I don't try to get features removed because pirates are getting the better of me. I refocus, adapt and fight back. Surely that is what you do in fight game.
     
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  7. Jon Ward

    Jon Ward Well-Known Member

    Again your crying about kill shots as many others have. If you cant get a kill shot with a regular attack and you need caging to help you your weak. I have no problems around my range getting kill shots without the need of a cage. So your theory is just that a theory. It's weak at best.
     
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  8. greatM

    greatM Active Member

    Lmao,
    I am not the one crying about anything, I just pointed out how I use the feature ( cagematch ) that is available to me as one option for achieving the same end, a kill.
    I've not even said anything like I cant get a kill shot without it. It is just an easy option to maximise the kill efficiency of my attacks by adjusting target health for the kill shot.

    I'm not the one in here crying (as you call it) from being attack max 50 times a day. In a fight game. Trying to get a fight feature removed because you can't handle being attack and you've made a bad job of using your skill points wisely to combat all features in the game.
    All I'm seeing from those wanting to have cagematch removed is; I'm not going to do what I can to mitigate, defend, fight against, those that have made best use of a very limited fight feature,

    but are happy to attack those that you are able to kill so you say easily, who have to put up with, up to a few k attacks per day.

    Seems like double standard here also.

    I'm rooting for the weaker player, so they have at least one option available to them to fight, albeit a very limited option.
    Noting, I am far from being weak compared to my level.
     
  9. Old Salt

    Old Salt Well-Known Member

    Your posts are all the same. Repeat. Rinse. Repeat. Cagematching is a legitmate option for baby pirates who don't have full crew or weapons, mateys or ships. That's it. That's all it was ever meant to be for. Your rooting for the weaker player? Then how come your advocating for an option that is keeping them weak?
     
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  10. JADES

    JADES Well-Known Member

    How is this statement even coming close to correct, if understand how a cagematch works?
     
  11. greatM

    greatM Active Member

    You do make me laugh as your posts are all the same.
    But you still have not said what problem it causes you apart from it being annoying.
    and how it compares with you being able to battle attack weaker players thousands of times per day compared to just 50 cagematch attacks max.

    Maybe if you explained why 50 cagematch attacks max is so much worse, than thousands of battle attacks against a weaker player then I might change my view on it, but knowing any possible argument comparing the two, then its unlikely to happen.

    All I hear from you is:-
    Cagematch is annoying, ask the weaker plays how annoying it is, to be constantly attacked while they are trying to play the game.
    Your argument about it being a baby pirate feature falls flat, because it has been around for years and never was restricted to baby pirates.
     
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  12. Marc14

    Marc14 Active Member

    Caging doesn't help you when you are weak, caging can help you when you are to strong and your opponent would end up in the hospital with an attack. You can then use one or a few cage matches to get him close to the hospital and finish him with an attack.
    So with a cage match you would have even more kill shots.
    I just want cagers to stay because it's more fun to kill them. I know they are hardly alive but when they are online and alive, it's party time.
     
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  13. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member

    not if they cannot even come close to a kill with an attack, cause even with their high attack they need a BIG boost to even have a chance of a win, they have neglected so many areas of the game, they could not kill a dead flea :p And yes it would be alot more fun if I could attack them but they are never alive or have enough health cause they burn thru their stam and have to hide till it rebuilds.
     
  14. greatM

    greatM Active Member

    Kirset i will ask you the same question:-
    Why is 50 cagematch attacks max so much worse, than thousands of battle attacks against a weaker player?

    Considering your post quoted below.
     
  15. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member

    Not sure what even mean, I get listed and attacked all the time, I do not consider any of it being harassed or bullied I can give as good as I get, ,but hit and hiders are I cannot attack back. If someone is weak for their level for not playing smart , and they allow someone to attack them thousands of times, (not sire why they would allow it), ( clueless I guess)they can always use that stupid protection feature. Regardless Caging is for low level players who do not have full clan, or items to have some protection against someone in their XP range, I learned early on how to become strong and left caging behind years ago well below level 1K, I personally value my stamina way too much to cage or use more than 1 stamina in A FIGHT. Try again...:p
     
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  16. greatM

    greatM Active Member

    Seems you can not against a player that is using a legitimate feature of the game to the best of its function. That makes them smarter than you in my book.
    I offered you option on how to counteract it. You are not interested in adapting or mitigating its effect. So live with it , well get killed by it. :p
    after all your quote > "There us no harassment or bullying in a fighting game that excuse falls flat"

    If they are active and want to get a lot done and a stronger active player in range, has decided to constantly go for them, it happens.

    Been there, As far as I remember protection is only available at 3k attack in 24hrs.
    They regret it in the end.;)

    If someone is not prepared to mitigate its effect and or adapt, against a legitimate extremely limited fight option, that has been around for years, "not playing smart" and they allow themselves to get killed "(not sure why they would allow it), ( clueless I guess)"

    Regardless Caging has been around for years it has never been restricted to low level players. That argument "falls flat"
    How is it protection? it is limited retaliation at best.
    You learned early on how to become strong, but did not chose to mitigate the effect of cagemtach on you, or learn to adapt.
    try again...:p

    You can't protect yourself ( or more correctly chose not to ) against a play using max 50 cage per day.
    When you are off line at worst you can only be be killed once, when active you can fight whenever they heal.

    Weaker players cant protect themselves against a stronger player in range until they have been attacked (and possible kill many times ) is it 3k attacks per day before they can activate protection for 3 days.

    "but hit and hiders are I cannot attack back."
    Seem to me they are smart to be able to do that, they would not be able to do that and get away with that with me.
    They chose to spend most of there inactive time in hospital, you chose to spend most of your inactive time power healed, seem to me they are being smarter. You chose not to be smart.
    You seeming to keep ignore counters, you could set plenty of counter on them, but you chose not to. That is you choice.
    You seem to not want to build up enough personal defence and get the best defence loadout to mitigate. cagemtach. Your choice.


    Seem you are avoid answering the simple question :-
    Why is 50 cagematch attacks max so much worse, than thousands of battle attacks against a weaker player?
     
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  17. Old Salt

    Old Salt Well-Known Member

    It doesn't. But then again a lot of the points in his post are not grounded in reality. The only way to fend off a cager is to allocate most of your skill points into defense. Then again, since most of us don't want to play a one-dimensional game then this won't be the case. So most of us will lose a cagematch to someone all attack.
     
  18. Old Salt

    Old Salt Well-Known Member

    Spam the thread all you want you still cannot come up with a cogent argument why high levels need cagematching other than they are weak from leveling.
    People can go back and read my posts. I've listed several reasons. I'm not going to keep repeating them because you like to pretend I never said them. Floundering around repeating the same crap does not win you a debate. And keep writing your novels. I doubt very much anyone is reading them.
    And like we all have repeated umpteen times. Cagers at high levels HIDE ALL DAY!

    BTW I note that you ducked Jade's question to you so I answered it. Can you?
     
  19. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member

    I can protect myself with counters if a cager can win with thw 37 % boost, who said I didn't, you??? you do not know me or how I play , I play hard and I play to win, but I don't hide that is for cowards.
    IT is not just one weak hit and hider cager, and that is not the point, KANO ( read my lips) told us years ago when implementing this feature, which BTW some players were against, even then,that it was for low level new players who do not have full clan , eventually they did limit how many times a cager can attack another player , so each person they can cage 50 times, and they get no XP after 25 of them , If I remember right, Kano even raised the XP someone could get if we did find them alive, from somewhere in the low 30's to a higher 30, still a joke, and it is 1K attacks or 9 bounties before the protection feature shows up and if a low level lets him or herself get attacked 1,000 that is stupid, who gets attacked 10k times, only a leveling twosome, is gonna have stats like that and they are doing it with an agreement, My defense is just fine, and a cager has never killed me with a cage , I do not hide I leave power health 99% of the time, and I will not hide, so enjoy your caging only a coward cages, only a coward who is too lazy to do bosses, adventures, or craft is gonna cage, and a level 12k plus caging is a joke and and believe me we call out the cagers with their 36 % boosts , as the joke they are. , so keep spamming for cagers, just shows me that you are weak player who likes to spam.

    PS putting you on ignore cause I can and make believe you ARE not even here spamming :p
     
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  20. Marc14

    Marc14 Active Member

    :) I know, but with 'to strong' I didn't mean the cagers, they are just weak.
    Yups, most of the time they are dead. Sometimes they are just in the hospital so you can always ask the help of a few friends to PW them close to death and let you have the final kill :)
    I'm sure you would find enough players to help with that.
     
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