New Rule pertaining to Chat

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Dollerz, Aug 23, 2018.

  1. Dollerz

    Dollerz Administrator

    We consider ableism to be harmful language pertaining to those who are handicapped in some way. Calling somebody "retarded" or a "retard" is not condoned in the Lounge/Tavern, for example.
  2. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member

    Ableism ,,,,,,discrimination in favor of able-bodied people.
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2018
  3. Caroline

    Caroline New Member

    This is a relief to hear and a pleasant change from having to mute players who constantly goad and post derogatory comments.
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  4. Smack

    Smack Kano Krusader

    I just want to be clear that the change we implemented today doesn't exactly shelter you from such comments. Previously, if a player was banned from either the Lounge or World chat, they could lurk but could not send messages themselves. So in this instance there would be nothing for you to mute.

    However, given that a ban will now mean that you don't even get to view that channel, it should hopefully deter some of the unwanted comments and behaviour.
  5. Justin the killer

    Justin the killer Well-Known Member

    im glad i am a nice player these days xD an i cant afford to get ban no more :D
  6. johno

    johno New Member

    all to bloody precious an sensitive
    its only a game an you will always get a couple
    If you don't like the talk get out of it
    you always have a choice
  7. Caroline

    Caroline New Member

    Yes there is always a choice. To someone who obviously has never been affected by malicious and vindictive players who take this "game" into real life, I say this to you. This ruling is to keep people in line and make PC enjoyable for everyone. No longer will I need to "mute" players for their vindictive name calling. Yes you may call it being too sensitive, but for someone that's had this constant abuse and taunting for the past 3 years I call it cyber bullying. Thank you Kano for the new ruling.
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  8. Rodney Rangel

    Rodney Rangel Active Member

    i'm laughing because you can't see the world and tavern channels lol put that in your pot pie
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    Wouldn't ableism include all insults? For example there's a player named after male genitalia who has an IQ that hovers on the chilly side of room temperature. Is pointing out that he's the reason we have warnings on plastic bags ok? Or is it ableism?
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  10. Chasity

    Chasity Well-Known Member

    I always figured that in the lounge it was okay to say whatever one desired, and "enter at yer own risk", like a Real piratey Tavern should be! :cool:
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  11. johno

    johno New Member

    I didn't say I hadn't been affected , However I do have a choice if youre so sensitive re words then you have a choice, no one is forcing you to stay in that chat as there are other avenues of chat open to you on the game. I still say people are way to sensitive grow up and have some fun.
    its a big place this world and all to often someone person finds it way to easy to be offended by some one else's comments. all nationalities have different meanings for different words, alo the tavern is what it is a tavern. if you don't like it dont go
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  12. Darth Vader

    Darth Vader Active Member

    What exactly was the point of tavern chat ???? There was something for more free talks than in world chat ? But no matter over and over, new and new rules have been added and currently have the same functions it makes no sense, the truth is that tavern chat was a failure ! Too many sensitive people on the web, so best remove everything and leave only jobs and groups :) The problem is that there are too many players taking the game for a real world and this is very sad !
  13. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member

    Muting and banning are two different things, if you mute someone you don't have to see what they say, If kano bans someone they will no longer be able to see the tavern/lounge. Muting is a good choice, once someone is banned though, they cannot post or let alone see what is said there.
  14. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member

    Yes the tavern is more loose as far as trash talk but there still were rules from Kano, if we cannot abide by those rules and people say things that cross the lines of those rules, then they are banned and the rules are there for all of us to read, it is not a hard concept. Like anything else, people like to push the boundary to see what they can get away with, but the tavern rules are pretty much the same from day one.
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  15. I wouldn't do that if I were you.
  16. Micaylah

    Micaylah Active Member

    And so do you.

    Yes it's a game but some folks take these sorts of games rather seriously. For whatever their reasons are, it's none of our business. Even in Tavern there are lines that can get crossed, and yes while I have seen some pretty harsh stuff, believe me, when it gets close to the line and then over, expect people to report. :)
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  17. AlterEgoT

    AlterEgoT Well-Known Member

    I think there is a difference between being too sensitive and having constant attacks.

    Sure folks go at it, and get a bit too far over once in a while. But when someone does it to someone daily for years it passes from someone being sensitive to abusive.

    Yes lounge is sitting around a bar that could make a sailor blush. But in a real bar folks eventually get in a fight and get hauled off to the pokey, or beat each other senseless and get thrown out of the bar, or at least closing time comes around and folks can regroup.

    This lounge doesn't close. There is no bouncer. Since folks can hide within the game, the fight option is out. and the police have to wait for a pretty strong case to haul them to the drunk tank.

    As Smack pointed out this doesn't stop the comments. What it does allow for is a secondary cooling off period. And a bit stricter punishment for going so far as to become abusive instead of merely an arse. Since the player would then miss out on free pk's and helps etc posted within the lounge.

    It may be that kano after some time has passed determines it's not fair for other folks to get to go after the banned person as they have no way to watch their back. But That's for them to see if is a problem which will require some time.

    I think what many people don't realize is that some of these folks go to great lengths to get to personal information. Going as far as looking people up to post their full names, addresses, places of employment.

    Add to that the way lounge tends to gang up on people and it can become too much.

    Let's be real. We all play this game to get away for a little bit. Kick back and have a little fun. No one should have to deal with that kind of behavior from someone for that length of time.

    I applaud kano for reminding each of us that just because it's the internet and "anonymous" doesn't mean it's right to stalk, and/or abuse someone. When it crosses from trash talking/trolling or even a bad night or a retaliation--into years of name calling and digging into people's lives for things to use on the person, perhaps it has gone to far.

    Sometimes the bouncer just needs to throw em out in the rain for a while to cool off.
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  18. AlterEgoT

    AlterEgoT Well-Known Member

    ps. This was less of a problem when the gamers could police themselves within the game a bit easier. ie. someone went over the line they had trouble progressing in the game. It's changed too much for that to be effective however, so they will stay dead or hiding for hours on end so they can cross whatever line they want to. With all the events they can even still play the entire time.

    (In case you are wondering, I'm not really a fan of mute or ban. But I'm even less of a fan of abusive behavior)
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  19. Rodney Rangel

    Rodney Rangel Active Member

    that would get you banned,
  20. elrusso08

    elrusso08 Member

    SOMETHING WRONG IS HAPPENING TO ALL APP's ONLINE. just tryed to open Vc server 1 and got 1 error. No DNS response from Servers....PLEASE CHECK THAT

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