Game Update: Rivals Heal Link Adjustment

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by mi7ch, Aug 9, 2013.

  1. ben

    ben Active Member

    i agree linda...

    but i say its open the door wide open for the players using bot and scripts in hitting the bounty... kano have should of look at it from both sides than one side...

    they say to report them but we all no theres not a thing to catch them in game the did fix it in battle arena but not in game play to catch them...
  2. Jon Ward

    Jon Ward Well-Known Member

    And how would you know what other games use this feature your only playing LCN. So again not geared towards your game and players there. It's game towards everyone in the community not just one specific bunch.
  3. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    Im all for ridding the games of them cheatn bastards as well....but not at the risk of further damaging the games. I still havent heard a single good reason why "tweaking" the skull heal actually helps in this effort. I understand that players can use bots/script to heal with it...but they do the same thing with the other heal button as why one is worse than the other i have no idea....we cant exactly get rid of the option to

    There are many tells that someone is using a bot/script that Kano should easily be able to identify especially if they are zeroing in on them. I knew a guy that was once one of the most prolific players in these games and forums...we were actually clan for a long time until he admitted to me and others what he was doing. They have since left the games but I definitely picked his brain for as much as I could. Im not going to go into all the tells as I certainly dont want to help anybody cheat but i will cite a couple that have already been mentioned on numerous occasions . A bot heals with a regular beat/cadence that cant be duplicated by a human over an extended period of time. Players running script also dont tend to do their adventures every level either. This guy was using bots.script effectively both for attacking and healing way before the skull heal came to be. Its also important to note that he was often reported yet still went years getting away with it

    In the matter what Kano does there will always be somebody that finds a way around it. Thats not to say they shouldnt bother trying to stop it....but they need to keep the games player friendly. Personally.....I think this latest "tweak" takes away way to much and doesnt do anything that cant already be done. What I think needs to be done is what Ive been saying for a long time now and thats to add to the support dept. ....because in the end its us players that see whats really happening out there and report them.. Granted .a lot of reports are false but thats just another good reason to add to support. Melonie does a fantastic job but I cant imagine all the crap she must deal with on a daily basis. Support should be available 24/7 and there should be a designated person whos sole job is tracking down the cheats and abusers.. so automated deterrents, limits , restrictions and "tweaks" dont screw with the fluency of the games.
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2013
  4. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    ahh...ok...ty 4 the reply. lcn, vc and pc are all pretty similar other then a few minor diffs and focuses. The only real big diff is how the players go about playing them....each has its own environment. As far as the heal button goes it works the same for all of them and players use it the same way for the same reasons.
  5. Kel the Merciful King

    Kel the Merciful King Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, despite server logs, someone switches on their autoclick program and nails a big fella on the bounty. Do they get away with it? I think they have and do.

    I see them. I have the health to see them in action and have reported at least 3 players for using same. 1 quit the game. The other 2 are active still. One has a juiced mouse, that at will, can flip a button and drill 65 times per second. Does Kano register that on their server logs? Does it jump out at them? From over 100K in health to zip, in a flash. Yes, the heal button change will help detect that????? How???????

    The profit for cheating is not on healing as has been pointed out. The defence against cheating is on the healing function. Heal rapidly v. an autoclick program or juiced mouse, and maybe the server logs will show it, and the real cheats in these games will be caught.

    Bottom line, this change cuts down Support's work. Great. Play more volleyball as your games lose their appeal.
  6. God of Bacon

    God of Bacon Member

    It's not as if you can attack someone 64 times per second, the server won't register, believe me I hit the max speed with my index finger.
  7. JADES

    JADES Well-Known Member

    Why take a legitimate way to heal quicker off the skull anyways? Yes it was introduced later in the game, but for someone that plays off rivals for bounty, this has screwed us. I understand the couple hrs on list to be a annoyance for some, and others say don't have to hit. Guess what it happens, maybe throttle the heal feature after ~10 mins if possible? Just idea beat it up...
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2013
  8. foxysiren

    foxysiren Well-Known Member

    Actually I have not seen it mentioned...I just went back into warmode and obviously I play from the rivals where the skull heal is.
    When one heals and has a few people attacking them in warmode I realised the skull heal is pretty useless...the delay between heals is far too long. I'm sure many have found themselves dead before they got to click heal for the second time.
  9. Cyberspook

    Cyberspook New Member

    I do not like this adjustment to heal button at all. I have a enormous amount of health and can now be killed off right away by weak players when i click on the heal button it just isn't fast enough to stay alive. If you are going to adjust the heal button to be slow then you should also adjust the attack button to compensate if not you need tweak the heal button
  10. ben

    ben Active Member

    when are we going to hear from kano on the feed back on this thread ???
  11. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    I dont want them to actually "tweak" the attack button....but I completely agree with the logic behind the sentiment in that it should be fair across the board. I think in this case "fair" would be to return the skull heal to the way it was.
  12. IpeeFreely

    IpeeFreely Member

    i didn't even notice the change... maybe making the delay 1 more second longer :confused: . this may pose problems for ppl like me who are high lvl strong players with sh@t loads of gf weapons & 60,000+ health.

    i don't have to move my mouse around, i can heal on the hitlist without being killed just by repeaditly clicking where the heal is in the skull area, hence it may now look like i use a heal bot? :( & that bothers me greatly since i have been a front runner in demanding the elimination of these bots & hotkeys for sometime now!!

    @ previouse user 'Kendall' is part of the kano team, & not just a moderator.......
  13. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    Which game are u playing and on which platform? The reason I ask is because what your saying u still can do is what this thread is all about. Everbody was once able to click freely on the "skull heal" tab without moving their mouse but now Kano has "tweaked" it so that option is no longer available. Have u tried doing this recently? The "skull heal" tab should be reacting the exact same way the regular heal tab has always worked in that when u click on it a message box appears in front of it which slows down the healing process.
  14. Kel the Merciful King

    Kel the Merciful King Well-Known Member

    How fast can you click per second and why do you think their servers cannot register this burst? An auto clicker can click 65 x per second at test sites. Do you think the IP address and count cannot be monitored? To me its called work by Kano, is required to up the monitoring which apparently they don't want to pay for. Fine.

    If this work was done, the answer for a lot of healing performances seen and support responses would be canned and would be as they should have: entirely clean and within the parameters of what skilled players can do. Only a nitwit as far as I can tell made and encouraged more support issues on this, to make a change in his favor and further his agenda to call skilled players cheats. Lunatic Fringe 1, Skill and Fun 0.

    For the record, this incitement to flood support was provided to Kano before the change was made.
  15. IpeeFreely

    IpeeFreely Member

    mobwars lcn.. & yes it reacts like the normal heal tab, but that doesn't do much,lol... i don't have to move my mouse around :S... i just wait for the message to disapear on its own. if i click in the same spot, i can heal over n over on the hitlist, so hence it didn't do much good :confused: did it?

    maybe a 'ok' button on the message after you click 'heal' would do the job ;)
  16. God of Bacon

    God of Bacon Member

    I say this because If I go and spam click 8 times a second to attack someone on my fight list I only see about 1-2 attacks registering every second. Using both my mouse and trackpad together i can put out about 14-16 clicks per second but no way in hell am I going to be attacking someone that fast. It doesn't work, don't ask me why. It works in arena, it worked on the skull heal while it lasted, but it does not and never has to my memory worked for normal attacks.
  17. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    ahhh...ok...ty 4 the reply. the skull heal didnt use to act like the regular heal tab in that the message never use to appear....that slows things down considerably from the way it was
  18. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member your saying your using 2 devices to click in certain aspects of the game? Somehow I dont think that would be acceptable behavior...but perhaps im wrong.

    I know that I told Kano about an exploit that was being widely abused sometime back....they told me it wasnt possible....when i assured them it was they told me it wasnt supposed to be possible and they would look into it and fix it....that never happened to my knowledge
  19. God of Bacon

    God of Bacon Member

    Multiple devices are not against Kano TOU. I was banned from VC for using 1 computer to heal, and another to attack(neither one was running any sort of automation) and the people at Kano agreed it wasn't against the rules and unbanned.
  20. polishpimp

    polishpimp Well-Known Member

    huh....very good/interesting to know...tyvm.

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